#dev 2019-06-16

2019-06-16 UTC
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GWG I am looking for some really inspiring photo post presentations
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GWG Anyone have any they particularly like?
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mblaney ah. thanks aaronpk.
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mblaney what is a repost?
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Loqi A repost on the indieweb is a post that is purely a 100% re-publication of another post. The act of reposting is an umbrella term that covers the general practice of republishing another post typically on the same service or silo, but more and more across sites https://indieweb.org/repost
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[miklb] anyone able to answer a Q about IndieAuth?
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[miklb] er, SelfAuth
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mblaney stops making up his own grammars
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jacky what is selfauth
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Loqi selfauth is a single user authorization endpoint written in PHP which is easy for anyone to get running https://indieweb.org/selfauth
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[miklb] what I’m confused by is can I host that on one domain, and use it for auth on a static site with a different URL.
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[miklb] I guess its same idea of using IndieAuth.com so it *should* work now that I think about it more.
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[eddie] Yeah, seems fine.
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[eddie] I think the only restriction on that stuff is how your me url changes. It always has to remain on the same domain, but the domain of the endpoint can be anything
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[eddie] IndieAuthCeption! https://eddiehinkle.com/media/a5c2b765c5cf67f665de47f736309114.jpeg
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[eddie] I am using IndieAuth (as a client) on my website to login to IndieAuth (as a server) on my website. :exploding_head:
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snarfed 😎
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jacky [eddie]: is that a potential test of signing into your own site?
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[eddie] jacky: Yeah, signing into my site for viewing private posts, etc
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dhanesh95 sknebel: Heya! :)
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sknebel so you could turn the entire <section id="about"> into your h-card - it has your photo, your name, and a description about you? would only need a link, but you could do just a hidden link if you can't come up with nice reason to put it with text in there
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jgmac1106 somethign like this? https://gist.github.com/jgmac1106/3afca1fb56523de5739d215968dca960
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dhanesh95 sknebel: I can probably add the link to my image.
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sknebel or that, yes
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dhanesh95 Cool. My understanding was that I need to have my name in the <a> tag itself.
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dhanesh95 But seems like that can be flexible.
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sknebel yes. there's a common shorthand where you don't need to write out the individual properties, but you can do it flexibly
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jgmac1106 when you say your name in <a> do you mean the rel=me
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jgmac1106 I didn’t add those to the quick example I just did many people add those there,
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dhanesh95 jgmac1106: No, I mean something like <a class="h-card" href=".."><img src=".." alt="" /> Dhanesh Sabane</a>
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jgmac1106 ahh okay, I’ll let sknebel answer you questions he is the true Sensei
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dhanesh95 I'm not sure if I'll be adding rel=me. Apart from Twitter, I don't really use social media much.
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jgmac1106 gist I made is a good start.
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dhanesh95 is thinking of getting rid of Twitter too.
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sknebel dhanesh95: look at e.g. the second example on http://microformats.org/wiki/h-card
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jgmac1106 yes but this is to log in to other sites like the wiki
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dhanesh95 jgmac1106: Yup, I had a look at the gist. Thanks!
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sknebel oh, yeah, the gist is good too
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sknebel except the p-name should go on the <strong>, not the <h3> :D
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jgmac1106 so when you have a rel=me to your GitHub and then then a link back to your site on GitHub, you can login in to the wiki and authenticate with your GitHub credentials
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sknebel (since the ", Software Engineer" isn't your name)
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jgmac1106 ahh thanks, just threw that last edit in there
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dhanesh95 sknebel: I'm removing "Software Engineer" part in the revamp. So it'll only say Dhanesh Sabane in bold.
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dhanesh95 And then the remaining part on a new line.
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sknebel oh, and "p-note" instead of "p-summary"
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dhanesh95 sknebel: Noted! :)
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jgmac1106 sorry bout that, moving fast, I do the sloppy copy and sknebel comes in with the artist eye
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jgmac1106 going to try and add events to Kirby today: https://getkirby.com/docs/reference/panel/samples/events
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sknebel but yes, if you use the explicit labels for properties you can put them wherever inside the class="h-card". the <a class="h-card" href="url">name</a> is just a shortcut, where the parsing algorithm automatically infers that the link is the url, the text content the name, ...
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GWG Morning
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Loqi morning!
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jgmac1106 and also be careful cutting and pasting, sometimes my MacOS sticks in curly quotatons other times it does not, never knew why
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jgmac1106 !mf2 https://decorous-windscreen.glitch.me/
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Kaja_ https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdecorous-windscreen.glitch.me%2F
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Loqi Dhanesh B. Sabane, Software Engineer.
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Loqi Dhanesh B. Sabane, Software Engineer.
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jgmac1106 that is what your h-card would look like through a parser
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sknebel (I gotta leave now, but happy to take a look later)
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jgmac1106 ohh and Dhanesh you may want to change your alt text “responsive image” would not tell a screen reader anythign relevant
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jgmac1106 see you Sven
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dhanesh95 sknebel: See you later!
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dhanesh95 jgmac1106: That's cool! Thanks for the links!
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dhanesh95 jgmac1106: re alt text - I've currently set it to - "It's me!" :P
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jgmac1106 What is Kaja?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Kaja
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jgmac1106 on the website you shared now it is “responsive image” just an A11y tip
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dhanesh95 jgmac1106: Yeah. I'm revamping the current website locally. Will share it here once I'm done with the changes. :)
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[eddie] If anyone feels like testing something out, visit this page and click the login button and try to login with IndieAuth :D https://eddiehinkle.com/2019/06/16/1/
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jgmac1106 eddie++{
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jgmac1106 worked, that was awesome!!
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[eddie] Yay 🙌
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jgmac1106 minor detail but the word “protected” in the middle of the date/weather is a little strange but that is just a styling issue…this is so cool
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GWG When I update data about a photo on my site, should I put that into the photo file itself?
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[eddie] jgmac1106 Yeah, need to completely restyle my "meta" section of my posts :)
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[eddie] But thanks for the feedback
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jgmac1106 I would even think about putting it in the title (or as first word in a note) as a big notifcation to readers PROTECTED:
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[eddie] Ohhh that's a good point
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[eddie] Something's visibility really should be closer to the title area than the metadata area
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jgmac1106 do I need any kind of special markup for readers or parsers if I have a Read more link?
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[eddie] Where is the read more link appearing? In a feed?
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[grantcodes] It's kind of anti microformats ideology (I think) but if you currently want the best experience for readers you should probably have your content in a hidden element.
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jgmac1106 anyone using details/summary for a read more link? That way data is hidden?
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jgmac1106 eddie yes 300 character excerpt on my directory of articles in an h-feed
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[tonz] Cool! eddie++
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[tonz] eddie++
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[kevinmarks786] Details summary is the exact read more use case - I do that in mastoview
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[kevinmarks786] (for CW)
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[jgmac1106] Yeah used it for apolier alerts on posts but may add to h-feed article directories and see what happens
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[kevinmarks786] If the summary is the beginning of the post you can do <details class=e-content ><summary class=p-summary >
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[jgmac1106] ahh didn't know summary could be inside comment, thx
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jgmac1106 I was going to put my author h-card as an aside but this needs to be inside the h-feed yes? or do parsers…wait…
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jgmac1106 What is author?
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Loqi authorship is an algorithm that determines the author of a post https://indieweb.org/author
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[miklb] Has anyone explored using https://unit.nginx.org ? I discovered it last night.
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[miklb] I have it working with php after some fiddling, but curious about being able to run some node stuff along side and self-host instead of using Heroku.
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jgmac1106 mf2! http://testkirby.jgregorymcverry.com/blog/test2
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jgmac1106 !mf2 http://testkirby.jgregorymcverry.com/blog/test2
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Kaja_ https://php.microformats.io/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftestkirby.jgregorymcverry.com%2Fblog%2Ftest2
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jgmac1106 !mf2 http://testkirby.jgregorymcverry.com/blog/
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Kaja_ https://php.microformats.io/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftestkirby.jgregorymcverry.com%2Fblog%2F
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jgmac1106 !mf2 https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/16/favorite-breakfast-huevo-rancheros-tortitlla-cups
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Kaja_ https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fquickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com%2F2019%2F06%2F16%2Ffavorite-breakfast-huevo-rancheros-tortitlla-cups
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aaronpk [miklb]: whoa that looks cool
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[miklb] I’m moving non-personal stuff off my main server now so I can really test it out this week. I’m excited about the prospects.
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aaronpk Any idea how mature/stable it is?
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[miklb] it’s a year old now and a 1.x release
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[miklb] but yeah, I wouldn’t be rushing to use it in mission critical production without a lot of testing.
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[miklb] but I did use it to hook up a WordPress site instead of using php-fpm.
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aaronpk Nice, I like the idea
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[miklb] I really like the per app config in json that you update with an API
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[miklb] the config can live in the app directory and be version controlled
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@schlagetown Enjoyed this article about personal websites: as personal exploratory space; as playground for creative learning and tinkering; as community web… Making me want to implement webrings & webmentions on my own site(s)! (twitter.com/_/status/1140333085982101504)
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sknebel [miklb]: yes, selfauth should work from a different domain - if it doesn't I'd consider that a bug
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sknebel I think the nginx people can be trusted with relatively new software
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[miklb] thanks. After I typed it out and read it back I realized it would only make sense that could be different domains.
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aaronpk jacky: I don't mean to be a pain, but there's some more weird stuff going on with your markup
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jacky nah please this is helping me build a more solid test suite
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aaronpk looks like there's a missing quote in a link here https://v2.jacky.wtf/stream?page=76
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jacky > page=76
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jacky going into the archives lol
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aaronpk well
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jacky not even that's just last week
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aaronpk I was looking for the URL to your comment on https://aaronparecki.com/2019/06/04/23/sign-in-with-apple-misunderstandings
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Let's Clarify some Misunderstandings around Sign In with Apple
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aaronpk I was gonna try re-sending it
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[grantcodes] Yeah I see I lot of big jacky faces too 😄
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aaronpk but the URL that was found in the post is https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/Published%202019-06-04T18:45:31.58634-07:00
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Loqi [Jacky Alciné] Nothing Here! https://v2.jacky.wtf/~/theme/default/assets//images/flamenco/flamenco-page-not-found.png
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jacky hmm
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aaronpk so I went looking thru the backlogs for it
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jacky I think I can find it on the timestamp alone
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jacky but it might be more optimal for me to resend my webmentions
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jacky to update references to those who received ones in the past
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aaronpk so I found that one and re-sent it to myself
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aaronpk looks better now, but it also looks like you're returning your own parsed mf2 json with Accept: application/json
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aaronpk so i'm still getting the wrong mf2 because of that other parser bug
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jacky that _shouldn't_ be sent anymore
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aaronpk the rel=alternate is gone, but it's still responding to the accept header
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jacky oh wait if you send it by header, it'll respond
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jacky yeah
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jacky D:
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jacky time to 422 that
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[grantcodes] Also I have a beta up of a pretty much completely rebuild together! https://together-web.tpxl.io
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[grantcodes] I think the fake data on the demo is my favourite thing.
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sknebel [grantcodes]++ lol
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aaronpk jacky: cool removing that will help for now. The repost markup is still weird with the missing quote and I think thats what's throwing off my site, but I can't find the actual permalink to try re-sending one because the html doesn't even link to itself right
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jacky missing quote? like an empty "content"?
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aaronpk No like literally <a href="
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jacky ugh
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jacky I know why that happens
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jacky ashamed to admit it too, lol
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