#dev 2019-08-09
2019-08-09 UTC
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[grantcodes] Yeah so my understanding is published date is supposed to be when something is `published` (or intended to be published) to your site and `created` is when it was started.
# [grantcodes] The main example is usually writing a draft one day and then publishing it another.
# [grantcodes] But I think that follows for ownyourtrakt
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[xavierroy] for context, i can check into a show on trakt when i start watching it... but i've completed watching it only when the episode is over
# [xavierroy] so the published time would be completed time and not the checkin time
# [xavierroy] I checked in an episode last night. and i've got 2 entries for it now
# [xavierroy] one sec. let me check if it has become a watched again in Trakt
# [xavierroy] deleting both plays from trakt now
# [xavierroy] and relogging to check
# [grantcodes] At the moment ownyourtrakt will probably duplicate that because of the way the API works. I also never use check-ins so I don't see that in my history
# [xavierroy] just relogged the episode
# [grantcodes] But I'm going to change from the history API to the watched API which will help with duplicates
# [grantcodes] It will probably make another post for you xavierroy
# [xavierroy] it just did
# [xavierroy] there seems t be some timezone issues
# [grantcodes] It tracks the last id and last time, and all history items have different IDs and times
# [xavierroy] i watched it last night at 11pm. the time in OYT is 2019-08-08T17:30:00.000Z
# [xavierroy] and the time in WP is 23:59
# [grantcodes] And yes, I've not really done anything with timezones so that is probably getting mangled
# [grantcodes] I parse the date on the oyt server though, so it probably goes wrong there
# shokuninDiscord[ so what's a good micropub editor?
# [xavierroy] 2019-08-08T16:40:00.000Z winds up as 23:59
# shokuninDiscord[ something we could use in our app?
# [xavierroy] i'm in +530 UTC
# [xavierroy] i had a similar problem with Teacup... They get pushed to +5 UTC
# [xavierroy] timezones are hard
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Ruxton only play wth UTC, let user set timezone for display/input. Only one place in the wrld that's an issue, Antartica. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Antarctica
# [grantcodes] If either of you are comfortable in JavaScript / node you're welcome to work on ownyourtrakt
# [grantcodes] shokunin: depends what you are looking for in a micropub editor
# [grantcodes] It's just on glitch for now
# shokuninDiscord[ anything we can put in a react app and start writing and it spits out compliant stuff
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# [grantcodes] I think my stuff is the only reusable react micropub components so far
# [grantcodes] Those are reusable form components that build valid mf2 properties, but you still need to publish them somehow.
# [grantcodes] https://github.com/grantcodes/micropub can be used for publishing
# [grantcodes] I have seen one other micropub client built in react, but it was a standalone thing
# shokuninDiscord[ does your editor use micropub?
# [grantcodes] Technically no. It just generates a JavaScript object that is compatible with micropub. How you use that is up to you
# [grantcodes] But I do use it in multiple micropub clients
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# shokuninDiscord[ oh interesting
# shokuninDiscord[ how would your editor compare with Slate btw?
# [grantcodes] Slate is awesome. It's very different from that. Mine are more for the individual properties that are useful for micropub, and slate generates one rich content value
# [grantcodes] I think I have react-quill built into my editor components, but you could theoretically use slate instead but with slate you have to set up all the ui and html conversion yourself
# [grantcodes] My browser extension micropub client uses slate though so it's definitely possible
# shokuninDiscord[ cool!
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petermolnar !tell aaronpk something is off: https://telegraph.p3k.io/webmention/13h0oWOqL7iKFRh4DI - target: "https://brid.gy/publish/flickr", summary: "No webmention or pingback endpoint were found at the target" - but it does have <link rel="webmention" href="https://brid.gy/publish/webmention">
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[KevinMarks] @shokuninDiscord Quill has a medium-alike editor
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jeremycherfas !tell zegnat If the people who create the stylesheet I want to use via
# jeremycherfas !tell zegnat If the people who create the stylesheet I want to use via CDN change the content of the stylesheet, then any hash I generate is going to fail, isn't it?
# jeremycherfas And that will stop my site from using that stylesheet.
# jeremycherfas That is why I thought it would have to be the source that generates the hash.
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# [grantcodes] Yes, but a lot of cdns provide specific versions that never change.
# jeremycherfas I guess I should take this up directly with Tailwind. I have seen those integrity hashes with, I think, font-awesome, which may be where I got that idea.
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# jeremycherfas Not this one. Not yet.
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# [grantcodes] I don't think there are that many reusable standalone media endpoints
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[schmarty] If you're okay running python on a vps /Spano is standalone and v generic
# [grantcodes] I think eddie and cleverdevil have at least looked into that
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Loqi Amazon S3 is a file hosting service from Amazon https://indieweb.org/Amazon_S3
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[eddie] My experiment here: https://indieweb.org/Amazon_S3#S3_as_a_Media_Endpoint and related https://indieweb.org/AWS_Lambda#AWS_Lambda_as_a_media_endpoint
# [grantcodes] If you're on wordpress just now there are a ton of plugins that can use s3 for the media library (which is more useful than a standalone media endpoint imo because you get image resizing and other niceness)
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[Rose] > Media Cloud works by moving your images, media and other files from your WordPress server to online cloud storage such as Amazon S3, Google Cloud Storage, DigitalOcean Spaces and many others. You can then serve that media through a CDN like Amazon Cloud front, Cloudflare, Fastly and others.
# [grantcodes] Not used it but I'd totally trust this one: https://deliciousbrains.com/wp-offload-media/
# [grantcodes] time = money 😛
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# Loqi aaronpk: petermolnar left you a message 9 hours, 4 minutes ago: something is off: https://telegraph.p3k.io/webmention/13h0oWOqL7iKFRh4DI - target: "https://brid.gy/publish/flickr", summary: "No webmention or pingback endpoint were found at the target" - but it does have <link rel="webmention" href="https://brid.gy/publish/webmention">
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# [Lewis_Cowles] When looking at pushing things out [Rose] have you looked at https://www.imgix.com/ they allow you to put media in a S3 or many other types of storage, but they distribute it. A really cool thing is you can upload 1080p images, and contextually serve smaller images, scaled down images which get cached. Your original media is preserved. It's wonderful to have nice tools
# [Lewis_Cowles] Of course budget matters though. I only found out about this service from my job
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[tantek] [aaronpk] Bridgy doesn't require u-syndication on the link to Bridgy for the webmention to Publish to work. Does IndieNews require u-syndication on the link to https://news.indieweb.org/en?
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# [KevinMarks] I was thinking of one that would work for content security but you could also parse for mf2 and hash that? Or maybe the entry.value
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# shrysr I am having trouble parsing links from my xml feed using webmention.app locally on my vps. It works fine when i supply the actual blog post link / file . I get a type error, and earlier i was getting other errors too while using the xml file
# [KevinMarks] You should be using the html, yes. It's hard to get xml to pass as html
# [KevinMarks] Also, you want the link that the mentioned page adds to go to the html version
# shrysr but then how can i use webmention.app to scan all the html files of my website?
# shrysr cant I do that with a single command ? because i cannot pass in a directory to the npx webmention command
# shrysr i'm also struggling to figure out how to implement a receiving point on my vps.
# shrysr HOLY !@!@#!@ [KevinMarks] i got it working with xml ... i just used the default template from hugo's site and changed it so that the entire content is extracted, instead of a summary.
# [KevinMarks] Ah, right, then it will be in html. Though you may still get the wrong backlink
# shrysr hmm -it appears the backlink is ok
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# shrysr aaronpk: is my underrstanding correct that the development section of webmention.io's github readme contains the instructions to run webmention.io locally ?