#dev 2019-08-25

2019-08-25 UTC
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[asuh] This is excellent and is what I hope the WordPress webmention plugin will eventually do.
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[asuh] https://www.zachleat.com/web/featherweight-facepile/
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[asuh] Specifically his numbered list in the section titled “Enter Avatar Local Cache”
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Loqi A Featherweight Facepile
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aaronpk nice trick keeping the smaller of the webp/jpg/png versions!
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[Michael_Beckwit I'm suddenly wondering what tools exist in the IW community that are able to return the permalink for newly posted social media content. The reason being that instead of using social sharing tools, just link to the new permalink at the end of posts and encourage people to visit/share via the native UI
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[Michael_Beckwit on top of that, you could pass those through your own analytics tracking/short url tools etc and track your own stats
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KartikPrabhu what is original-of?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "original-of" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "original-of is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu hmm interesting
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KartikPrabhu I have this https://kartikprabhu.com/original-of/
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[tantek] what is original post
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Loqi An original post link is a hyperlink from a POSSE copy to its original indieweb post https://indieweb.org/original_post
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[tantek] original-of is /original_post
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Loqi ok
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[Michael_Beckwit perfect, would help a lot if I pursue further with my random ideas
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[tantek] what is original post discovery
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Loqi original post discovery is a discovery algorithm for starting with a POSSE copy of a post and finding the original post https://indieweb.org/original-post-discovery
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[Michael_Beckwit added both to my notes
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[Michael_Beckwit thanks Tantek and Kartik
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[snarfed] also https://indieweb.org/posse-post-discovery
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[snarfed] bridgy + granary have pretty mature implementations of both
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@tw2113 @cswordpress I love that I discovered you use Webmentions on your website and have recent posts about the IndieWeb. (twitter.com/_/status/1165507708809863168)
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aaronpk welp instagram just blocked the google cloud IPs now
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aaronpk at least the ones I am on
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aaronpk this might be the end of ownyourgram
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[tantek] whoa
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aaronpk nice to know I have users I guess?
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourGram/issues/85
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Loqi [roytang] #85 OwnYourGram cant find my photos
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[Michael_Beckwit Google....Facebook...i don't care what your beefs are, kiss and make up so that Aaron doesn't have to ditch OwnYourGram
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[Michael_Beckwit do it for the children
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aaronpk https://xray.p3k.app/parse?url=https%3A%2F%2Finstagram.com%2Faaronpk&pretty=true
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aaronpk i'm sure they are claiming they're doing this to "crack down on bots"
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[Michael_Beckwit oh most definitely
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aaronpk I feel like this is a use case they should allow in their official API
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aaronpk right on their developer page: "Help individuals share their own content with 3rd party apps"
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aaronpk and "You cannot use the API Platform to crawl or store users' media without their express consent"
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aaronpk if I try that route, i'll have to change the name
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aaronpk and figure out some way to spin it as a tool for Brands™
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aaronpk :sigh:
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KartikPrabhu Indieweb™
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[jeremycherfas] [aaronpk] When Overland gives me an HTTP error, timed out, does that mean my Compass was too slow?
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iandk Anyone know where to download font families? I need FF Super grotesk :)
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omz13 @iandk, FF fonts are available from fontshop.com
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vika_nezrimaya good morning Indieweb
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vika_nezrimaya !tell aaronpk you're using microservices too, right? how do they authenticate to each other? What's the UI for pregenerating tokens, for example?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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vika_nezrimaya Because right now my renderer cannot connect to the micropub endpoint without a token, and generating a token for it automatically is obviously very hard
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vika_nezrimaya but maybe aaronpk's services work on a shared database..
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jgmac1106 after spending some time this morning looking at open source photo gallery tools I think I am gonna skip having one more thing to mantain and just add an FTP client to my phone
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aaronpk vika_nezrimaya: I have a page on my website for entering tokens for all the services it uses. Sometimes those are hard coded in the config of the service.sometimes there's a command to generate a token in the service
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Loqi aaronpk: vika_nezrimaya left you a message 3 hours, 23 minutes ago: you're using microservices too, right? how do they authenticate to each other? What's the UI for pregenerating tokens, for example?
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aaronpk Oh and some of them use IndieAuth to get a token without any copying and pasting
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jgmac1106 nvm I have 170 gigs of photos….won’t be hosting those myself any time soon, Google Photos it is
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[tantek] so I'm posting this here as a heads-up because I didn't realize React (as a community) was *that* bad. Thread (trigger warning, includes a lot of white/privileged defensiveness / demand for "proof" in replies, etc.) https://twitter.com/TatianaTMac/status/1164912554876891137
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@TatianaTMac TIL: People care more about protecting the reputation of a **framework** than listening to **multiply marginalised** people that you have actual **white supremacists** in your niche community and our broader community. I’m not going to ignore that fact; my safety depends on it. (twitter.com/_/status/1164912554876891137)
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[tantek] consequence: https://twitter.com/TatianaTMac/status/1165456607729180673
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@TatianaTMac Incredibly sad, disappointed, and not at all surprised by *so* many people. Your actions/inactions have spoken. Enjoy an industry without me. After my signed obligations, I’m out. ✌🏽 (twitter.com/_/status/1165456607729180673)
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Loqi is there a new Laravel LTS version for aaronpk yet?
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Loqi Countdown set by sebsel on 2019-05-27 at 9:51pm CEST
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aaronpk hah
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[KevinMarks] This thread too, though maybe for meta rather than dev https://twitter.com/TatianaTMac/status/1165148755106025478?s=20
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@TatianaTMac Fascism comes Italian ‘fascismo’ from Latin ‘fascis’ or “bundle.” The symbol of their group was a bunch of sticks surrounding an ax to show strength through unity: lone sticks break, bundles don’t. So fascism is a bunch of fragile sticks clinging to a weapon. (twitter.com/_/status/1165148755106025478)
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jacky .