#dev 2019-09-15

2019-09-15 UTC
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aaronpk As I'm posting from this plane, where I'm also tracking my location, I'm thinking I need a new display of my location on posts
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[jgmac1106] Yes you publicly shame ring breakers as always
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aaronpk right now it's showing random towns I'm flying over as the location of the post, which isn't really representative e
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aaronpk I want to change it to say my location is the flight number, maybe the start/end airports too
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aaronpk so instead of "Randomville, CA", it's "Alaska flight 500, PDX to LAX"
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GWG How would you do that?
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[jgmac1106] With plain text
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GWG I meant, how does it know?
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[jgmac1106] Browsers... Thwy can parse and display plain text... Or is or is just plane text... Meant aaronpk could set it to Alaska Flight 500 by typing 15 characters easier than a bunch of code
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[jgmac1106] Or is it?*
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[jgmac1106] I kinda thibk randomville, CA is cooler. My vote would be "over Randomville, CA on Flight 500"
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aaronpk My website already has my flight info
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aaronpk so it knows when I (should) be on a plane
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[jgmac1106] Its like the Santa Tracker but for aaronpk
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aaronpk So I need to override the part of my site that pulls location data to recognize my flight schedule instead of pulling from gps
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[jgmac1106] I would go with both. When I show your site to people they think its really cool when they see different locations so close apart in time.
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aaronpk haha that's a very specific thing to like
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aaronpk I just think that ground position isn't terribly relevant or contextual during flights
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aaronpk maybe % thru the flight
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[tantek] Still need the Indiana Jones style display :)
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[tantek] Old timey map, red dot traveling along a growing red arc
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GWG You need the music
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[tantek] Yessssss
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[tantek] aaronpk does your GPS tracking include altitude? You could check to see if you’re some amount higher than the nearest town and then display it differently
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GWG It does, if I recall our discussions about displaying it
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GWG How do you know how high the nearest town is?
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[tantek] He already knows what the nearest town is (that’s what his inflight posts are errantly displaying). Then look up the town in OSM or wikidata etc which has the altitude of each city / town
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[tantek] On a different topic, I’m pretty excited about this: https://twitter.com/simevidas/status/1172886337474781184
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@simevidas Image with with/height attributes, Chrome vs. Firefox Nightly (https://jsbin.com/nimacuc/edit?html,css,output): https://twitter.com/jensimmons/status/1169817725364867074 https://twitter.com/simevidas/status/1172886337474781184/video/1 (twitter.com/_/status/1172886337474781184)
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[tantek] Finally gives a good enough reason to actually include width&height attrs on img elements
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[tantek] For anyone that does photo and especially multiphoto posts, this will make your posts load & display much nicer especially on mobile or low bandwidth situations
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GWG [tantek]: I'm missing what is going on there
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aaronpk yeah my gps has altitude, but there are several problems with using that
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aaronpk 1) altitude in gps is extremely inaccurate, so it's not a reliable source in general. 2) finding a source of altitude data for arbitrary locations is actually kind of a challenge
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GWG aaronpk: I have been using elevation APIs. Not accurate, but seems to work closely enough.
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[tantek] Surprised Aaronpk doesn’t have a GPS watch yet that is specifically designed for accurate altitude
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[tantek] Aaronpk, nice thing is, for this specific usecase (am I way above the town or not?), you don’t need accuracy
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[tantek] And forget town level if that’s too hard. Use the state
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[tantek] Am I more than 100m above the highest point in this state? Ok I’m likely not on the ground
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[tantek] Also that’s a very cacheable small table
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[tantek] 50x state and its highest altitude. Use countries for rest of world = maybe 150 more rows
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[tantek] GWG go look at the jsbin demo in that tweet. It’s pretty self explanatory
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GWG Oh. I'll have to click through.
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GWG I just saw layout jank
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[tantek] Technically layout reflow but yes (jank usually refers to something stalling or being unresponsive)
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aaronpk I think my flight plans on my website are an easier way to get that data
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aaronpk actual city name: "Middletown, CA"
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2019/01/15/19/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Mimosa
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aaronpk oh hey my templates are already set up to handle named h-cards with URLs even
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aaronpk that means I only have to figure out the data aspect of it, not the UI aspect \o/
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GWG That reminds me
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GWG I need to post my first itinerary post
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/2019/09/14/2946/
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GWG Needs work
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aaronpk that's a good start tho!
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GWG aaronpk: I used Quill. I have no Itinerary UI
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aaronpk nice
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@chrisbiscardi Hey @MathieuDutour, thanks for the gatsby-plugin-webmentions PRs! I just caught sight of them and got it all merged in. Shipped in 0.2.0 (twitter.com/_/status/1173097754660241408)
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jacky hmm news.indieweb.org doesn't like it when you pass charset info in the "Content-Type" header
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jacky that seems to be an okay thing to do https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Content-Type
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jacky aaronpk: ^ maybe something to consider?
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aaronpk Hmm weird I wonder why
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jacky I can try to look into it in a few and open a ticket if that helps
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jacky this is what I want to add for microsub and web channels
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jacky https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/245d4227-9d03-49d6-b258-a20b5c10527b
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jacky oh damn
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jacky this thing with the content type might be affect Loqi too
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jacky ugh
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jacky oh yeah this websocket stuff is nice
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[tantek] we did have some realtime UI stuff back in the early days where you could see comments show up on posts in real time - at least aaronpk did, maybe previous version of p3k?
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[tantek] what is realtime
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Loqi Realtime generally refers to a user experience where content is updated live; for example: a new comment shows up on a page while you're viewing it, or chat notification "your friend is typing a message." https://indieweb.org/Realtime
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jacky that was more on one's personal site 🤔
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jacky Lwa << https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/245d4227-9d03-49d6-b258-a20b5c10527b
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Loqi ok, I added "https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/245d4227-9d03-49d6-b258-a20b5c10527b" to the "See Also" section of /Lwa https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=64926&oldid=63523
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[tantek] jacky, here you go, with websockets, from nearly 6 years ago 😂 https://aaronparecki.com/2013/10/13/4/realtime-indieweb-comments
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[tantek] Well here's an example of why it's not a good idea to depend on second degree vouching (triggers: epstein, MIT Medialab) https://www.axios.com/reid-hoffman-jeffrey-epstein-mit-donations-206d7254-e4dc-4079-9974-631fbe669b3d.html
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vika_nezrimaya So, post deletion! For now it shows a stub in feed in place of a deleted post...
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vika_nezrimaya But with a backend change it shouldn't do that
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[KevinMarks] Webmention.herokuapp.com does real time comment updates
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jeremycherfas !tell [snarfed] I seem to get a message from instagram-atom almost every day saying that my cookie isn't working, but the feed seems to continue supplying images. Not sure what to do.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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vika_nezrimaya anybody want to test their webmention receiving? I need to test my webmention sending :P
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[jgmac1106] jeremycherfas over from the main channel, yeah I need to be concise and then I am just gonna wait for subgrid
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[jgmac1106] a concern of mine with grid is losing the creative constraint of conciseness to have the exact character count for layout...gonna make me lazy
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[jgmac1106] subgrid that is
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[jgmac1106] I also bumped my minmax from 300 to 600 on my initial grid, I think this messed up a bunch and lead to the need for media queries
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jeremycherfas You can always be your own constraint.
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@yogsototh Untitled (https:&#x2F;&#x2F;http://webmentions.yannesposito.com&#x2F;http://open-source-endangered-specie.org) ; https://webmentions.yannesposito.com/open-source-endangered-specie.org via my bookmarks (twitter.com/_/status/1173237458156347392)
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[schmarty] fluffy: I have a gardener task that I can run to recheck all the links
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[schmarty] I haven't set it to run regularly yet
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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ @pancakeuprising By the way, your use of combining IndieAuth and WebMention for commenting as one's site is totally badass. (twitter.com/_/status/1173296736158277632)
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[pawel_madej] Can anyone help me debug why webmentions using brid.gy are not sent for notes and are sent for article? Note: https://www.pawelmadej.com/note/183500/ Article: https://www.pawelmadej.com/project/gsm-connected-mini-call-center/
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[pawel_madej] Brid.gy says that it failed to fetch or n twitter syndication link.
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[snarfed] [pawel_madej] that's from a bridgy log?
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[snarfed] first place to look is your user page. i don't see an attempt for that note...? https://brid.gy/twitter/PawelMadejCK#publishes
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[snarfed] did your site not send a webmention for it?
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[pawel_madej] This is from resend for post and Discover
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[snarfed] oh backfeed, not publish
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[pawel_madej] I do not know if it send debuging now
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[snarfed] ?
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[snarfed] you're trying to get bridgy to create a tweet for https://www.pawelmadej.com/note/183500/ ? or send likes and replies back to it?
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Loqi This is only third test, nothing to read … Please do not disturb yourself :) #indieweb, #syndication, #test
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[pawel_madej] One is tweet and one is reply see /notes
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[pawel_madej] None apear on bridgy
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[snarfed] i'm still trying to understand what you're looking for. are you trying to get bridgy to create a tweet? or send webmentions back to your web site?
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[pawel_madej] I want to send tweet from my entry
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[pawel_madej] I got huge log from sending webmentions with some error but not sure if i can paste it here
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[snarfed] ok. your user page https://brid.gy/twitter/PawelMadejCK#publishes doesn't show an attempt for that note, so your site never sent bridgy a webmention. try it interactively? ie enter your note url in the "Enter post URL" box
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[pawel_madej] https://pastebin.com/zW3FBLGB
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[snarfed] that's the log from the article, which you said worked. that error just says you already published it, so you can't publish it again
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[snarfed] bridgy never got a publish webmention for https://www.pawelmadej.com/note/183500/
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Loqi This is only third test, nothing to read … Please do not disturb yourself :) #indieweb, #syndication, #test
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[pawel_madej] Hmm So the problem is with sending... On my side
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@dev_nikema I need to learn GraphQL and @gatsbyjs As soon as I'm done with the React app I'm building, I'm gonna get WebMentions set up on http://nikema.dev. I looked at this tutorial and started it but it felt like I was missing too much context https://www.knutmelvaer.no/blog/2019/06/getting-started-with-webmentions-in-gatsby/ (twitter.com/_/status/1173301146401701888)
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[schmarty] fluffy: 🕸 gardened!
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jamietanna[m] I've got my step counts almost working today - managed to hook into the Google Fit SDK for Java, so just need to do the last couple of bits like sending a Micropub request at midnight daily and I'll soon have my step counts showing up in my social feed
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