#dev 2019-09-16
2019-09-16 UTC
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dansup aaronpk: found a bug in pixelfed thanks to your post! We're not parsing dates properly 😅 https://d1sz9tkli0lfjq.cloudfront.net/items/1C0S0u3i2a2g0O2n0a3B/Screen%20Shot%202019-09-15%20at%208.35.32%20PM.png
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dansup yeah I'm not 100% sure about how mastodon and pleroma update avatars, sometimes it seems like its instant across those two
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dansup or name changes
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dansup I've never considered storing avatar per post but with the upcoming schema changes in pixelfed that is possible
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dansup yeah, seems like I'm using the wrong carbon method, createFromFormat() works better
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dansup I should write a test for this
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dansup it appears pleroma timestamps are not formatted properly, I will have to postpone this change :(
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ @mor10 I tried writing a non-technical version once:
https://alistapart.com/article/webmentions-enabling-better-communication-on-the-internet/ (twitter.com/_/status/1173454695710543872)
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Loqi Websocket is a full-duplex single socket connection over which messages can be sent between client and server https://indieweb.org/websockets
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Loqi Android is an open source operating system for mobile devices (AOSP) combined with a set of proprietary cloud services provided by Google, which some use to post to their IndieWeb sites https://indieweb.org/Android
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dansup what is pixelfed
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Loqi PixelFed is open source software for social image sharing, similar to Instagram, that interoperates with other sites using several open standards including rel-me and ActivityPub https://indieweb.org/PixelFed
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dansup hi jacky :)
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dansup trying to fix the timestamp bug in pixelfed, if I do it will break pleroma federation support since they use an invalid ISO 8601 format
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dansup jacky: how about you? what activitystreams verbs does koype use? Would love to support koype <-> pixelfed federation!
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dansup pixelfed assumes UTC timezone, one of aarons posts was in a different timezone and is now at the top of my home timeline in pixelfed because its a future date lol
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dansup I never noticed this before because pixelfed, pleroma and mastodon all use UTC for timestamps
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dansup pixelfed isn't a SPA, we inject meta tags in the blade templates so it should work fine!
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dansup view-source:https://pixelfed.social/p/dansup/75783646421848064
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beko[m] Read into webmentions spec and started to roll an endpoint using Express. I wonder about status codes for queued webmentions. The spec suggests 400 or 500 but I've no idea what to return for ongoing queued requests. 201 for Created, 202 for Accepted but that's for "Ongoing"? 102 for Processing?
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[pawel_madej] [snarfed] Can I ask for debugging once more? previous bug I found in [aarongustafson] webmentions plugin. Now I wanted to send issue about this to github from my page and get errors on creating new issue: https://brid.gy/github/nysander … it looks like github resolves u-in-reply-to link for issue page as a comment to not existing issue. But maybe I am wrong
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[pawel_madej] webmention is sent but to brid.gy but not accepted by github
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[pawel_madej] I tried in u-in-reply-to “repo url”, “repo url/issues” none is working at all
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janoort hi can anyone help me with php and jquery
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[pawel_madej] [sknebel] probably yes … for tweets / likes it works but have issue with jekyll webmentions plugin https://github.com/aarongustafson/jekyll-webmention_io/issues/128 (github broke <>) … somehow github issue was also sent at last. maybe this was because I was sending webmentions before deploying jekyll build to server, now I’ve changed CircleCI workflow steps and looks that at least some parts are better
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[pawel_madej] now I know it 🙂
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[pawel_madej] it gets harder if I test jekyll builds on localhost and it looks rather ok, but until I commit and trigger CircleCI workflow I cannot be sure what will be result online
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[pawel_madej] I have many years of IT background but ruby, jekyll and circleCI are new to me, and the whole IndieWeb also 🙂
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[pawel_madej] best part is that I will be able to do all content creation using only my iphone 🙂 for twitter this will be my custom made Shortcuts + Working Copy App, for new post iA writer + Working Copy App. Maybe I find time to describe this some day … for now it looks promising 🙂
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@ton_zylstra @synesthesia came across the list of participants of London's 2004 BlogWalk, realised I should re-add your feed to my reader. Great you run #indieweb 's indieauth and webmention on your site! (https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2019/09/9067/) (twitter.com/_/status/1173571836770172928)
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[jgmac1106] [aaronpk] its the antidote to the CK Lewis meme about internet on planes
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[jgmac1106] Can someone explain to me what "serverless" means? Like when folks say they build on netlify... That data must be saved on a server? I see people talking about it ans always wonder "Does that mean what you think it means"
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[jgmac1106] !tell jacky scrolling back read post about small business and facebook pages. Happy to chat after setting up a few for artist
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[jgmac1106] Yess so what makes it *less
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[jgmac1106] Ahh okay...
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cweiske good explanation: https://www.martinfowler.com/articles/serverless.html
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[grantcodes] Cloud functions is a better term that I think is at least 99% the same
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[jgmac1106] Thank you, it was just one od the jargon words people theough around I never understood
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[jgmac1106] Throw*
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[jgmac1106] JeremyCherfas the reason I liked losing the div and just just using figure is just 100% personal bias... I can see the semantic elements like section and figure in my head as blocks easier
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jeremycherfas Fair enough.
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[jgmac1106] Probably from too many years of carrying an APA style guide...
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[jgmac1106] I look at articles, figures, and sections as self contained ideas and can move around and style wherever... I know a div is same
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jeremycherfas Strange. I too have been writing all my life and regard the route through what I am writing as the best possible route for those ideas. For that reason, I strongly dislike See Fig on p 293 and endnotes rather than footnotes.
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[jgmac1106] Social science doesn't use as much endnotes as plant biologist.. APA in general discourages....Web has made me rethink figures and accessibility on paper
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[jgmac1106] Idea that tables and figures should "only" provide more info... I now describe all figures in plain text as well. Kills word counts
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jeremycherfas If bash does not recognise `yum` is there another way to install CPAN?
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jeremycherfas Er, not sure. Hang on.
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jeremycherfas I think ubunto 16 of some sort.
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jeremycherfas Ubuntu 14.04.4
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jeremycherfas Thanks. Same general sybntax? Apt install package?
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jeremycherfas Rats! Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
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jeremycherfas And I can't sudo at DreamHost
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jeremycherfas Back to the knowledge base.
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jeremycherfas Problem is that installing some of the dependencies an app needs, it failed to install some of them.
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[pawel_madej] quick question … if possible, how can I grab my own tweet (pre POSSE) put on my site and make it webmention target (and not be treated as some new content)? or this is not possible … only a history without webmentions target?
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[grantcodes] Totally possible [pawel_madej]
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[grantcodes] Might not be easy though...
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jeremycherfas Oh well, my plan to use Bise from jgmac is not going to work any time soon. Log naming structure is not correct and there are other problems. Giving up on it.
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jeremycherfas The thing is, the code doesn't look hugely complex, but this is definitely a project for another day.
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jeremycherfas Although, given that DreamHost keeps logs for only three days, that presents a possible solution too.
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[jgmac1106] Ping me if folks want to collaborate https://www.cnet.com/news/a-100m-grant-for-the-web-hopes-to-make-the-internet-pivot-to-privacy/ haven't dug into RFP yet
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[jgmac1106] Details sparse: https://www.grantfortheweb.org/ just a press release not an actual RFP
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[grantcodes] Hey, I'm Grant and I'm for the web
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[grantcodes] Although it does seem to be strongly angled at pushing the "Web Monetization standard and protocols" whatever those are.
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[snarfed] maybe brotli? he serves it. complained about it w/bridgy too. https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/878
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[pawel_madej] How can I tell brid.gy to use short url instead of canonical and how to make below url citation instead of active url?
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[pawel_madej] "#PL (https://www.pawelmadej.com/note/180941/)"
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[snarfed] [pawel_madej] https://brid.gy/about#short-link
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Loqi @zachleat says it clearly - we can’t expect places like Twitter to exist forever. But we can do that for our own identites on platforms we have a say in. I’m even happy to be working on things that help people do that!
https://www.zachleat.com/we...
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[grantcodes] Thought it might be about the parsed post type. But that doesn't look obviously bad to me
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@polarbirke ↩️ I've seen it work, too: this tweet of mine https://twitter.com/polarbirke/status/1173397125394325504 got picked up and sent as webmention as you can see here (first entry): https://webmention.io/api/mentions.jf2?target=https://mxstbr.com/thoughts/css-in-js/ (twitter.com/_/status/1173661084965920770)
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vika_nezrimaya I thought about GitHub and wanted to write a post. So, I wrote this: https://fireburn.ru/posts/1568652213
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vika_nezrimaya By the way, the post is written (but not sent) with my Micropub client. Sending is manual for now :3
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vika_nezrimaya #manualuntilithurts
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vika_nezrimaya This battle-testing also allowed me to realise I haven't exposed the list creation in my TinyMCE instance, so I quickly fixed that
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[snarfed] vika_nezrimaya we actually already have a lot of prior art on this, with existing mf2 etc. https://indieweb.org/code , https://indieweb.org/issue , https://indieweb.org/edit , https://indieweb.org/review
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vika_nezrimaya that's great :3
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vika_nezrimaya I wrote my post being inspired by GitHub and didn't think someone couldn't have thought of this before
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[jgmac1106] !tell aaronpk if you ever get home can you look at my Aperture account (59) i think it reverted back to jgregorymcverry.com and not quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com
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vika_nezrimaya [snarfed]: but the thing is: the only example of an edit post right now is lost to time and URL shifts
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vika_nezrimaya I might need to hack at this one day
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vika_nezrimaya since I'm a big fan of self-hosted Git
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vika_nezrimaya always wanted it since I started using Git
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vika_nezrimaya and now I have it
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vika_nezrimaya and a beautiful interface for it at https://git.fireburn.ru :3
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vika_nezrimaya I hope to make it IndieWeb-capable one day
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@mooreds Authentication with @netlify? No? Yes, actually: https://piperswe.me/posts/serverless-indieauth/ (twitter.com/_/status/1173689449634521088)
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[schmarty] oh dang! somebody did indieauth with netlify functions?!
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[schmarty] that's pretty rad!
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@janboddez Found a few minor errors in my Aperture—a self-hosted Microsub server—Docker setup, so I went ahead and fixed those. https://janboddez.tech/notes/2141993751 (twitter.com/_/status/1173690303720693765)
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