#dev 2019-09-27

2019-09-27 UTC
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[Rose] Can anyone recommend libraries they like in PHP for logging and DB connections?
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[dominik] I'm a big fan of https://github.com/Seldaek/monolog when it comes to logging.
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[Rose] I've just been reading about that
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[Rose] It's used in Symfony which we're using in several associated projects to this so my instinct says to take it and run with it 😛
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aaronpk I used monolog in something recently , it was fine
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[dominik] 👍 I've used it outside of Symfony as well and it plays quite nice on it's own as well.
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[dominik] (it's own? its own?)
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[Rose] its own
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[Rose] And I'll go with Doctrine, as we're using Symfony elsewhere I may as well use the same libraries for consistency
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aaronpk for ORMs I usually use idiorm if I'm not in a Laravel project
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[Rose] Using libraries at work is a new thing, I pushed strongly to use Symfony for our new projects so I think its probably smartest to stick with that stuff actually, so as not to alienate everyone 😛
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aaronpk 👍
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[Rose] But I'll note down idiorm for my personal projects
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beko[m] Is someone using TS and `microformat-node` ? I'm writing a typings declaration for it and wonder if someone else may have use for this. Still PoC and some properties may be missing.
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@DavidWolfpaw I really need to clean up the after-content area of my blog. So many things like post meta, comments, syndication links, webmentions, GDPR notice, and now a newsletter subscription form make it very cluttered. (twitter.com/_/status/1177590262022803456)
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[snarfed] https://blog.cloudflare.com/workers-sites/ 👀
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[Lewis_Cowles] late (possibly too late) suggestion is PDO with prepared statements and repository pattern. Sure you need to write SQL, but you also don’t get accidental cross-joins to solve (happened a few times at work).
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GWG The timezone page in the wiki could use some additional detail.
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GWG Is there any other entry that discusses how people display dates?
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GWG What is time?
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Loqi “Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.” — The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy https://indieweb.org/time
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GWG aaronpk has two dates on his posts
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GWG Some people don't post the time,. only the date. Some the time but not what timezone...
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GWG Anyone given thought to this?
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[tantek] Too much thought
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@jenssegers ↩️ @jnstr_io Currently working on getting webmentions to work (twitter.com/_/status/1177645097636302848)
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sknebel https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan/status/1177622630763028480
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@SaraSoueidan Did u know that some browsers make ”an educated guess“ to determine if a <table> is a data table or a layout table? That affects whether or not it is exposed to #a11y APIs. “Browsers look at the number of rows, columns & if the rows alternate in color”!! https://codepen.io/dexterperrin/full/ExYMvRV (twitter.com/_/status/1177622630763028480)
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@0xADADA ↩️ @__dfreeman they endup here https://0xadada.pub/webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/1177693233721290752)
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KartikPrabhu sknebel: that is a weird heuristic!! hold over from old-style table layouts?
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GWG [tantek]: Other than your 2015 article, what did you think?
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