2019-09-29 UTC
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# 06:26 GWG I just finished fixing UTC offsets in my location code, so I'm going to bed # 06:28 GWG That addresses that one attendee with a problem at IWC Austin 2017 [frank], [aaronpk] and [schmarty] joined the channel
# 06:54 Loqi GWG has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (145 in all channels) # 06:55 dansup hecc timezones GWG++ # 06:55 Loqi GWG has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (146 in all channels) dhanesh95_, [Rose], [tonz], dhanesh95 and [tantek] joined the channel
# 08:41 aaronpk oh, one-time use tokens in URLs are a different story # 08:46 aaronpk the "Risk of Exposure" section talks about it quite well # 08:47 aaronpk also lol "If you are considering using capability URLs, you should consider other options..." jgmac1106 and [jgmac1106] joined the channel
# 09:22 [schmarty] aaronpk described it as "awk, but for json", which feels accurate if inscrutable 😄 [Rose], [jgmac1106]1 and [Lewis_Cowles] joined the channel
# 10:39 [Lewis_Cowles] there is also yq for yaml if the need ever arises # 10:40 [Lewis_Cowles] beware json with comments, it's a thing I'm seeing more and more AceFaceDiscord[m, mrcatmann, jgmac1106, [jgmac1106], [tantek], [frank], [grantcodes] and [schmarty] joined the channel
# 13:38 [schmarty] Oooh yq is actually a thing I needed! I was converting yaml to JSON so I could use jq, then converting back! 😱 jacki and [mapkyca] joined the channel
# 14:08 [frank] [aaronpk] How do you redirect in Quill to the new published post? I can't find the permalink anywhere in the response from the micropub call. [aaronpk] joined the channel
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# 15:29 GWG I see Quill supports visibility as a query.. will have to add it now # 15:30 GWG I should do some Quill PR stuff one of these days jgmac1106, [jgmac1106], jjuran, [Marten], [grantcodes] and [frank] joined the channel
# 17:41 [frank] [Rose] a question on iOS Shortcuts. When I do a post to my blog (with micropub) I get a response from my WordPress site with the result and headers. How do I pick up this information in Shortcuts? Especially the header to get the Location which has the permalink to my new post. [Rose] joined the channel
# 17:41 [Rose] I presume it's returning JSON? JSON is a dictionary # 17:42 [frank] It's in the header, not the response itself. Which is JSON # 17:42 [Rose] I have a series of Shortcuts I've been modifying this summer, I should get around to posting them. # 17:42 [Rose] AFAIK you can't get the headers of the response. I'd be happy to be wrong about that though! # 17:43 [frank] Let me put my iPhone from Dutch to English to show the steps I have now. And the error message that goes along. BRB. I hope. [tantek] joined the channel
# 17:44 [Rose] Assuming iOS 13 you can also go to Settings > Shortcuts and enable untrusted Shortcuts and send me a link (making sure any keys are not present first though) # 17:45 [frank] It went pretty easy. Here's what I have now. After posting I want to get the headers of the URL. That's when I get an error. [aaronpk] and [schmarty] joined the channel
# 18:08 [Rose] Getting the headers sends another request I beliece # 18:09 [Rose] As you have to give it a URL, it can't read them from a query already executed # 18:13 [Rose] Yup, tapping the icon on Get Headers shows the following docs: # 18:13 [Rose] Retrieves the HTTP headers of the URL passed as input using a HEAD request. # 18:17 sknebel for personal use, you could extend your micropub endpoint to return e.g. a json including the path as well. I think that's valid to do with 201/202 responses # 18:20 Zegnat Yeah, totally valid. I feel like some people had already started doing that? # 18:29 GWG [Rose]: I couldn't even remember if I added that. # 18:29 GWG I am going to add the query Quill supports as of today in my next pass # 18:31 GWG [Rose]: By the way, any asks for WordPress? I am starting a run of bugfixes and easy enhancements # 18:32 [Rose] Being serious, no I think I'm all good - thanks for asking! # 18:36 [frank] With my checks in Postman to do these micropub posts, the response doesn't give back the full permalink of the post. # 18:37 [frank] [sknebel] I have no idea how and where to extend an endpoint.... # 18:38 sknebel since other say it should be there, micropub plugin up to date? # 18:40 GWG [frank]: Open an issue on the repo? # 18:42 sknebel [Rose]: you sure about the MP endpoint? or just the media endpoint? # 18:42 sknebel in the media endpoint I see code for it, in the micropub one it's not obvious [tonz] joined the channel
# 18:46 GWG But if someone opens an issue, I will see about doing it # 18:46 [Rose] And I construct it for MicroPub somehow I thought, but I have a cold - my brain is 90% offline :P # 18:48 Loqi [RosemaryOrchard] #206 Return URL to post in JSON # 18:59 Loqi Rose has 14 karma in this channel over the last year (52 in all channels) jgmac1106, KartikPrabhu and [sebsel] joined the channel
# 20:15 [Rose] !tell GWG: same as Media Endpoint? Sorry, I’m not logged into GitHub here. # 20:15 Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next Gr1mR33p joined the channel
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# 21:04 [aaronpk] We should standardize the JSON response with the URL as a micropub extension # 21:07 Zegnat Can I make the unpopular suggestion that, if that gets done, conneg is added so we can still give browsers a different response? 😇 # 21:10 Loqi conneg has -2 karma in this channel over the last year (-3 in all channels) # 21:12 [aaronpk] Why do browsers need a different response? Won't they redirect when the Location header is returned? krychu joined the channel
# 21:14 Zegnat But I am not sure if that is actual HTTP standards behaviour or unspeced browser behaviour # 21:19 jgmac1106 jaimetanna I see it as if something deserves its own license then it probably should be it’s own h* level. A self contained piece of content that could or shouldn’t be moved around based on license. # 21:35 sebsel re the Micropub returning the URL: I have all my endpoints return a HTML link. Shortcuts can parse that too. But I guess JSON makes sense too here, but the redirect is designed to be user facing # 21:36 sebsel has to be an <a href> for Shortcuts to work though, iirc. Just putting plain text wont work [jgmac1106] joined the channel
# 21:43 jgmac1106 I have used h-item for products on shopping pages, maybe that could work when you need a piece of content to have a different license?? # 21:49 sebsel so it is ‘get contents of URL’ and then ‘get URLs’ jgmac1106 and KartikPrabhu joined the channel
[schmarty] GWG++
dansup hecc timezones GWG++
[tantek] aaronpk, some of these use-cases seem quite legit: https://w3ctag.github.io/capability-urls/
@JamieTanna We've had some issues with IndieAuth on a WordPress subdirectory, and sending Authorization headers to DreamHost but @david_bryant has still made some good progress at #IndieWebCamp Amsterdam! (twitter.com/_/status/1178320286816636928)
[frank] You can view it at https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/1dc1eb7c4d8248f39639cdfaa010fa5f you need to put in a key and your own endpoint.
[grantcodes] Yeah think I saw that in wp and added that to my endpoint too
KartikPrabhu !karma conneg
Zegnat https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7231#section-7.1.2 seems to suggest the location header is only informational for 201, so may not automatically redirect ?
sebsel https://seblog.nl/temp/media-endpoint/f01413-img_4167.png this is the (unfortunately Dutch) that was used to upload that image itself