#dev 2019-11-03
2019-11-03 UTC
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# gRegorLove jamietanna[m], fyi, your webmention reply had source=https://www.jvt.me instead of the post permalink
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# jamietanna[m] gRegorLove interesting, I'll look into that today, thanks! It may be how I'm collecting the links and then sending it via mention.tech / mention.tech
# jacky handy site for matching free/open fonts from Google http://femmebot.github.io/google-type/
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# [LewisCowles] [aaronpk] just seen the comment about indielogin.com PRs
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# [LewisCowles] !tell aaronpk I've addressed PR comments on the two blocking PR's, but I may have just borked the heroku one. I have it on multiple machines so once the supporting work is in or closed I can decide the best course for fixing that one up
# jamietanna[m] !tell gregorlove do you mean https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2019/11/lbjkz/ ? When I send the Webmention, it seems to have the correct post URL. But I have seen this with webmention.io where it says it's from my profile URL because I've got an author h-card inside the post itself, so I think it gets confused between multiple `u-url`s?
# Loqi [Jamie Tanna] Reply to https://gregorlove.com/2019/11/awesome-maybe-ill-give-it/
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# [frank] Goodmorning Indieweb. I am testing an implementation of webmentions with the https://telegraph.p3k.io/send-a-webmention. I have a blogpost on https://frankmeeuwsen.xyz/2019/11/03/webmention-op-domein/ that mentions my homepage on https://diggingthedigital.com/. When I try to send a webmention through Telegraph I get an error message “The source document does not have a link to the target URL or domain”. But it does. So where could the error
# [frank] When I try https://mention-tech.appspot.com/ (thanks [KevinMarks]!) with the above parameters, I get the message the webmention is succesfully sent. But on the receiving end nothing appears in the backend of my comment-section...
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# [LewisCowles] [frank] adding the endpoints is less work than setting up a wordpress surely?
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# [jgmac1106] okay now that I actually removed the delete command from the GitHib ftp action it is much faster....and hopefully I can revuild the mess I made on my server
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# [frank] [aaronpk] OK, so here's the test you can try yourself. On https://diggingthedigital.com/ (the homepage) I turned of my endpoint. I made a blogpost on https://frankmeeuwsen.xyz/2019/11/03/webmention-op-domein/ with a link to the homepage https://diggingthedigital.com/
# [frank] On Telegraph I put the xyz-URL in the source field and target gets https://diggingthedigital.com/. When I press Send Webmention I get the error "The source document does not have a link to the target URL or domain"
# [frank] But at the same time, when I do `curl -si https://diggingthedigital.com/wp-json/webmention/1.0/endpoint \
# [frank] -d target=https://diggingthedigital.com/` I get back from WordPress `
{"code":"pings_closed","message":"Pings are disabled for this post","data":{"status":400}}
%`# [frank] [aaronpk] I think I found the issue in WordPress. At the specific page to receive the webmention, you need to enable trackbacks and pingbacks on that page. This is turned off by default in WordPress and you need to enable it in the Discussion settings. It's a bit of a trick but it seems to work now.
# @muanchiou ↩️ With indieauth you log in with a domain. It looks for the auth endpoint specified at the URL. In my case it’s this: https://github.com/muan/site/blob/master/_layouts/default.html#L9, which redirects to GitHub.
http://micro.blog reads from my RSS feed generated by Jekyll because I don’t need it to host the blog. (twitter.com/_/status/1191060560944734215)
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# [jgmac1106] can you nest a list inside a paragraph element or is that a no-no?
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# KartikPrabhu [jgmac1106]: you can write it up and test in a browser
# KartikPrabhu you can check how browsers deal with it. If they close the <p> automatically and ut the list outside then I would go with that directly in the markup
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# [jgmac1106] thanks I am trying to work on my following posts: https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes/2019-11-03-2 but in a way I can just lift the list element for my following page: https://jgregorymcverry.com/following with the dream of one day automating
# [jgmac1106] ignore weird looking footer messing with that too
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# [jgmac1106] I also learned you can't have an h-card in your e-content and use Bridgy to syndicate
# [jgmac1106] well I am using display:none but I figured out how I want my nav to work..and I am then back to no javascript...using a min and a max media query I move the nav from my header to my footer at 1200px
# [chrisbergr] [jgmac1106] Why do you use a list at this point at all? Wouldn't a span do what you want?
# [jgmac1106] for the follow post....I use the li and a span so I can properly hold an h-card in the li
# [jgmac1106] or do you mean for the footer...I dunno...because nav has always been a list for as long as I have done things
# [chrisbergr] No, I mean your h-card. you can nest several spans
# [jgmac1106] so then I can use flexbox on the following page. Everything is manual, so if I use the li in the u-follow-of note, I can copy and paste to /following...I get out of sync when it takles too much edits
# [jgmac1106] I have a bunch of folks to add to my following page...just experimental for now
# asymptotically Hi, sorry for the potentially very silly question but I am currently reading the webmention spec while adding a webmention endpoint to my site.
# asymptotically If I choose to asynchronously process the webmention and return 201 with a location, what should actually be present at that URL? Should it respond with a different status code based on if that webmention has been processed or not? Thanks
# aaronpk there's been some experimentation since then: https://indieweb.org/Webmention-brainstorming#status_page
# asymptotically ah thank you, I thought that I was missing something :)
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# [snarfed] [jgmac1106] h-card in h-entry is fine for bridgy publish. your attempt failed because it was (or had) a u-follow, and bridgy publish doesn't support POSSEing follows. https://brid.gy/log?start_time=1572810541&key=aglzfmJyaWQtZ3lyVQsSDVB1Ymxpc2hlZFBhZ2UiLmh0dHBzOi8vamdyZWdvcnltY3ZlcnJ5LmNvbS9ub3Rlcy8yMDE5LTExLTAzLTIMCxIHUHVibGlzaBiAgMCR87OTCgw
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# [jgmac1106] thx snarfed, that makes it easy, and I will kep probably finding ways to break things
# [jgmac1106] also means i don't have to think about how the heck to handle the twitter handle as inside or outside the h-card
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# [jgmac1106] thx snarfed, that works fine and it is a decent workflow to add the person to my /following page at same time
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# [snarfed] [jgmac1106] feel free to vote for https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/550 !
# Loqi gRegorLove: jamietanna[m] left you a message 12 hours, 46 minutes ago: do you mean https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2019/11/lbjkz/ ? When I send the Webmention, it seems to have the correct post URL. But I have seen this with webmention.io where it says it's from my profile URL because I've got an author h-card inside the post itself, so I think it gets confused between multiple `u-url`s?
# gRegorLove !tell jamietanna[m] yes, I think that's the post. The webmention I received had source=https://www.jvt.me, target=https://gregorlove.com/2019/11/awesome-maybe-ill-give-it/
# gRegorLove That was direct to my site; I'm not using webmention.io
# jamietanna[m] gRegorLove that's interesting. I wonder if it's either me sending them wrong (doesn't seem to be from my logs) or the receiver you're using suffering from the same issue as webmention.io
# gRegorLove It's a custom plugin I wrote, so it's possible, though I'm not having problems with other webmentions. The above was taken from my received logs
# gRegorLove Your parsed mf2 lgtm, home page is only in your author h-card so I don't think webmention.io should have problems with them
# gRegorLove I know your site sends webmentions frequently, is it on every page load? Maybe it's because your reply is still on your homepage
# gRegorLove Heading out for the evening, I'll check in later.
# [jgmac1106] snarfed, really I am hoping an export follower list (h-card directory) gets added to social readers, and readers add u-follow-of to micropub
# [jgmac1106] Minority edge-case != Keep Bridgy Simple
# [jgmac1106] I am so far behind on this...I was posting in in Known...and then addign to reader and /following...got a good manual workflow now
# [jgmac1106] well best way to encourage folks is to just keep using Bridgy in the wild, yeah I am just experimenting trying to get the use case and design down
# [jgmac1106] wait..confused. I thought the original point was, "a u-follow, and bridgy publish doesn't support POSSEing follows." so what is difference between "supports both directions" and POSSE?
# KartikPrabhu [jgmac1106]: essentially bridgy fed != bridgypublish
# [jgmac1106] yes it was me reading too quickly more than branding fail
# [jgmac1106] been letting micro.blog handle all that for me. I tried using the micro.blog websub endpoint to go ->Known.mb->federated site couldn't get it quick enough
# [jgmac1106] probably me doing something wrong meant Known->m.b->Twitter
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