#dev 2019-11-08
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gRegorLove Yeah, the auth endpoint can canonicalize the me but "MUST be on the same domain."
# gRegorLove I'm just wondering about the UX if someone enters m.b/username and the auth endpoint shows an error
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[jgmac1106] Gwg you blog and talk WordPress....people already read you like a thought leader
# [jgmac1106] I think you also have an interesting niche in developing to meet your religious needs. Write for one and many will follow
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[chrisbergr] Where should I interact with your stuff?
# gRegorLove mblaney, is Twitter cracking down on developer accounts?
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KartikPrabhu who is GWG?
# [chrisbergr] David: Of course I will be happy to do that. At the moment I'm fixing some mf2 issues, after that I want to interact with all of you, finally.
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# gRegorLove ohh
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[dougbeal] Huh, you can compile go to web assembly
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petermolnar someone summoned me
# petermolnar what's the context?
# petermolnar yes, I did; Backitude, but it's a discontinued thing
# petermolnar what is ulogger?
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Loqi μlogger is client-server location tracking software for Android https://indieweb.org/ulogger
# petermolnar alternative I have good experience with this so far: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mendhak.gpslogger
# petermolnar it's a replacement for backitude
# petermolnar not that great on battery though
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[grantcodes] What is owntracks?
# Loqi OwnTracks is an open source app for tracking your location and sharing with others, available on iOS and (unmaintained) Android https://indieweb.org/OwnTracks
# [grantcodes] I think it is maintained again
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# [grantcodes] Why not use that then?
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@bzelip ↩️ The micropub protocol allows for things like using 3rd party clients to publish to sites you control. There's an authorization that has to happen, via IndieAuth, https://indieauth.net/. My sandbox project auths into github to update jekyll posts that then publish to gh-pages. (twitter.com/_/status/1192791487056142336)
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# [jgmac1106] I am using trackbook Android you can get it in play store or F-Droid think
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# [grantcodes] Does anything have the functionality to post directly to compass?
# [grantcodes] Apart from overland on iOS?
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jeremycherfas !tell snarfed Can I use the same consumer_key from an existing twitter-atom feed of a list to get a different list?
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[KevinMarks] What's the android app case that you can't do with a Web app?
# [KevinMarks] Hm. I wonder if you could use the silent notification thing to wake up a background web app that has a service worker
# [KevinMarks] So your website sends a push, the sw then calls the web location api
# [KevinMarks] On android the web api is quite chill. You get a bigger and bigger confusion circle until something triggers a location wakeup
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# @bzelip ↩️ I'm new to #indieweb actions and building blocks. As I understand it, Micropub is mostly a CRUD interface for yourself, where content is updated via any client via IndieAuth, and via metadata on your stuff. Webmention & Microsub deal with syndication I/O. https://indieweb.org/graphics#Illustrations_and_Sketch_Notes (twitter.com/_/status/1192811384993529856)
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j4y_funabashi Huzzah! just implemented micropub update, only replace though I dont think I will use the others :/
# j4y_funabashi It is a fairly dull change on it's own but I have a couple of tools I want to build that need to be able to update posts
# j4y_funabashi First one Im making will loop through all posts and convert geo: urls to locations/venues
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@slightlylate @kevinmarks @Paul_Kinlan @davatron5000 @beverloo @b1tr0t We shelved work on geofencing over privacy, but unsatisfying to not have an answer. Took a while to see it from a different perspective, but eventually @beverloo (and I think @owencm) realised we could flip it around. The result is Notification Triggers: https://github.com/beverloo/notification-triggers (twitter.com/_/status/1192833844015058950)
# [jgmac1106] hmmmm the svg slide show was easy to make but not that accessible....need to think about how I can present the same info for screenreaders
# [jgmac1106] thinking on this if a text of slide wouldn't fit into the alt text of the slide than it iis probably too many words or concepts anyways
# [KevinMarks] Svg should be accessible inherently if they are using text and not paths
# [KevinMarks] You could paste the svg inline in a reveal.js style thing
# [KevinMarks] Then they're html and not external files
# [KevinMarks] Then pay attention to file order of the text strings in the svg so they make sense (depending on how you made the svg the file order may not match the spatial order)
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# [jgmac1106] I cheated...make slide show in Google Slidesa, export each slide as an svg copy and paste onto my website
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# [jgmac1106] snarfed++ https://pca.st/vhq358vo though I need to move my img out of css
# [jgmac1106] aaronpk or snarfed know what is missing here: https://jgregorymcverry.com/2toPonder that I am not getting the podcast art here: https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=rss&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjgregorymcverry.com%2F2toPonder ?
# [jgmac1106] as an FYI I tried both uifeatured and u-photo....oooh wait a minute the img is in the first show...maybe I need to move it to the feed description
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jamietanna[m] gwg: I do most of my stuff in Vim too, but for Java I have to use an IDE (IntelliJ) because it's quite painful otherwise, especially when debugging code
# [jgmac1106] everything but the img
# [jgmac1106] I tried u-feautred switching to u-photo to give that a go
# [jgmac1106] pocketcast accept without cover art. microcast.club and itunes do not
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# [jgmac1106] I am and if u-featured didn't work, and then u-photo didn't work I feel the issue would be better improved if I can describe each step i tried before filing
# [jgmac1106] also I would assume the issue is usually me and not stuff snarfed built
# [jgmac1106] but yeah tried both but not getting the podcast art recognized: https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=rss&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjgregorymcverry.com%2F2toPonder
# [jgmac1106] there really isn't documentation yet on converting mf2 into an rss feed with Granary that Apple will validate...snarfed and I kinda been throwing spaghetti at wall till we can iron out all the kinks (to mix all the metaphors)
# [jgmac1106] ha ha,m strange I said like ironing ice earlier...must be stuck in my head
# [jgmac1106] p-size and p-duration validated fine, so close....I was manually updating my xml after each new show....this is gonna be amazing once working
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aaronpk swentel: yeah looks like the URL I'm pinging at switchboard is https://aaronparecki.com/
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swentel aaronpk, ok, this looks better indeed https://switchboard.p3k.io/subscription/EGlBlptiDdjRA3zcEQ5rwYMkJRadXT06
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# [jgmac1106] snarfed I see the image in the granary xml...didn't pass through microcast.club, I will itunes validators after I take the cherubs to get haircuts after school
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[snarfed] hey [aaronpk] where is the microcast.club source? it's claiming https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=rss&url=https://jgregorymcverry.com/2toPonder has no feed artwork, but it does
# [snarfed] rss itself doesn't need the itunes: prefix: http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification#ltimagegtSubelementOfLtchannelgt
# [snarfed] the sample has it, but https://help.apple.com/itc/podcasts_connect/#/itc1723472cb doesn't say either way, and https://podba.se/validate/?url=https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=rss&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjgregorymcverry.com%2F2toPonder validates granary's ok. (at least doesn't fail)
# [jgmac1106] there is no stand alone equivalent in terms of podcast and Apple.....all validators..just like pitches for reviews...bow to Apple
# [jgmac1106] almost tempted not to doit as I get annoyed in every podcast being told to leave reviews on Apple
# [jgmac1106] snarfed++ aaropnk++ it works!!
# [jgmac1106] how do I do this in PHP so the date doesn't change but stays static once page goes live? <?php echo date("Y/m/d")?>
# [jgmac1106] just realized all my notes for the last few days have a dt-published time fo right now always
# [jgmac1106] ohh okay...will go back to manually typing it then...darn it was a nice timesaver
# [jgmac1106] well off to school and then haircuts
# [jgmac1106] Wonder if I can assign a variable to the string and just print the variable rather than echo the string.
# asymptotically [jgmac1106]: you will need to save the string to a file or into a database
# [jgmac1106] Okay. Then hit pause. If I am doing that might as well go all the way and build a basic form as a publishing UI..
# [jgmac1106] Yep. If you give a Mouse a Domain.....
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# [jgmac1106] I was using datetime for dtpublished
# [jgmac1106] tantek...I never finished it: https://mouseadomain.glitch.me/
# [jgmac1106] poor mouse was supposed to get overwhelmed first by the need to post and then engaging in outrage until she found peace back at her own domain....
# gRegorLove [chrisaldrich] I think your microformats got messed up a bit. Only has mf1 hentry, no h-entry. mf2 child properties like u-url, h-cite, in-reply-to aren't parsed as a result.
# gRegorLove Also probably minor, but the UserWay thing overrides Ctrl+U (view source)
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[chrisaldrich] sorry [gRegorLove] I updated my theme accidentally back in July and haven't had much need to revert it back. I should have done something manually before sending you that webmention. I'll dig up the changes and apply them later this weekend. Working on putting the finishing touches on the talk/slides for tomorrow...
# gRegorLove no worries, just wanted to let you know
# gRegorLove good luck for tomorrow!
# [chrisaldrich] [gRegorLove] I'll also see what I might do to come to the inaugural HWC San Diego...
# [jgmac1106] meaning gwg? I need to print the date in the text file at time of publish...which means I need to store stuff and write to file.....for now will go back to manual
# [jgmac1106] yes best of luck!!
# [jgmac1106] yes
# [jgmac1106] <time class="dt-published" datetime="<?php echo date("Y/m/d")?>"><?php echo date("Y/m/d")?></time>
# [jgmac1106] I'll be back have to go play Beyblades
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# [LewisCowles] [jgmac1106]++
# [LewisCowles] that mouseadomain is fantastic
# [jgmac1106] and I realized one reason I like to POSSE to twitter...Tweetdeck search engine works way better than @withknown...okay off to go prove I am the best with Bey's in the house
# gRegorLove [jgmac1106], flat file storage for this PHP project?
# [jgmac1106] gRegorLove yes, just saving each file as I go and the FTP
# [jgmac1106] then*
# [chrisaldrich] Unintended consequence of not moving over the proper child theme when I moved hosts to fix a prior issue. There are 3 other niggling things I need to fix as well. I was aware of it and I've been letting it slide, but need to fix it now that I'm "back". 😉
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@AndreJaenisch ↩️ @schnarfed O_O
It works!
Oh my gosh!
Now I just need to think how to get together webmentions with a static site generator (@eleven_ty) (twitter.com/_/status/1192922128296878086)
# gRegorLove Love that new indieweb feel ^
# [chrisaldrich] GWG, indeed!
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# [chrisaldrich] I have two big projects to finish GWG, then post kinds.
# @AndreJaenisch ↩️ Nah. That part I already handle (okay, have not enough Webmentions in my http://webmention.io account to check for how to include a comment).
It's rather about https://mxb.dev/blog/syndicating-content-to-twitter-with-netlify-functions/ after I deployed my site (all handrolled) (twitter.com/_/status/1192933948978061313)
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# @AndreJaenisch ↩️ Means, I need to run a script after my content went live.
But I don't want to send WebMentions on every build (hourly due to cronjob). Thus I need to persist what I already changed.
But I run the build from scratch every time aka stateless. (twitter.com/_/status/1192934236656934912)
# @AndreJaenisch ↩️ So what I could do is scrape my website for potential tweets and check in the downloaded ones for a hit. Then filter for the remaining ones and send WebMentions … (twitter.com/_/status/1192934457914859520)
# @AndreJaenisch ↩️ @schnarfed Is it possible to pull webmentions from bridgy like I do with http://webmention.io?
I couldn't find the proper endpoint in your about page (too much content there)
I'm happy to generate an API key if needed. (twitter.com/_/status/1192935493715009536)
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@schnarfed ↩️ not exactly. bridgy isn't a storage service like http://webmention.io. you could scrape your user page and parse them out using https://brid.gy/about#api , but i don't recommend it. if you want a storage service, try http://webmention.io or https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ instead. (twitter.com/_/status/1192936584955322368)
# @schnarfed ↩️ not exactly. bridgy isn't a storage service like http://webmention.io. you could scrape your user page and parse them out using https://brid.gy/about#api , but i don't recommend it. if you want a storage service, try http://webmention.io or https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ instead. (twitter.com/_/status/1192936584955322368)
# @AndreJaenisch ↩️ Already using http://webmention.io (until I can build something on my own - likely using Python webmention-tools).
Okay, I consider http://webmention.io as Reading feedback and Bridgy as POSSEing my content. (twitter.com/_/status/1192937266936721410)
# @schnarfed ↩️ sure! and bridgy also backfeeds (ie sends webmentions for) replies and likes on social networks. that's its key feature that you don't get from anything else, including http://webmention.io. (twitter.com/_/status/1192937792071798785)
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# [KevinMarks] I will admit to taking someone else's podcast feed and replacing bits with template macros to mung something into apple accepted xml