#dev 2019-12-07
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gRegorLove FYI, if any php projects need PHP5.4/5.5 on Travis, need to specifcy `dist: trusty` in the .travis.yml
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vika_nezrimaya Have anyone tried to combine React and server-side rendering to create a hybrid blog frontend that allows to use full power of React while staying crawlable and overcoming the problem of JS;DR?
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# marinin[t] vika_nezrimaya: have you looked at gatsby? it targets this use case
# vika_nezrimaya what is gatsby? I'm new to this JS stuff but open to learning
# marinin[t] (still can't post to #indieweb-dev from Riot/Matrix, ugh)
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Loqi Gatsby is a React-based static site generator with live preview https://indieweb.org/gatsby
# vika_nezrimaya Static site generators aren't what I want
# marinin[t] It's not only that though :)
# marinin[t] https://www.gatsbyjs.org/ it can fetch data on build time
# marinin[t] and you'd have whole React on the browser to do whatever you want
# vika_nezrimaya My use case is dynamically generating pages though. I need it to be blazing fast, crawlable but I want to be able to use it to build my site as a PWA
# vika_nezrimaya Live replacing data in pages to create beautiful loading sequences
# vika_nezrimaya basically progressive enhancement
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[grantcodes] What is next.js?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "next.js" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "next.js is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# vika_nezrimaya grantcodes: I'm looking at the homepage and with each item falling down my grin becomes wider :3
# vika_nezrimaya I think I'm falling in love!
# [grantcodes] vika_nezrimaya: have a look at nextjs or razzle. Or it's possible to roll your own but quite in depth
# vika_nezrimaya No thanks, reimplementing an SPA framework in Kittybox was enough for me
# vika_nezrimaya kittybox companion i meant
# [grantcodes] Yeah well nextjs is solid. Highly recommended.
# marinin[t] with Next.js you'd have to do data fetching on your own, basically, but on the other hand it's the go-to solution for getting react server-rendered without too much pain. Sapper was directly inspired by Next (but Sapper is for Svelte)
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jeremycherfas OK, let's see if I can get something worthwhile done for my personal challenge -- a sticky navbar.
# marinin[m] <jeremycherfas "OK, let's see if I can get somet"> With or without JavaScript?
# jeremycherfas Without. I have a couple of tutorials.
# jeremycherfas And I'm going to try using tailwind.css first
# marinin[m] Oh, I’ve heard about it, but never tried it myself. Looks... unusual.
# jeremycherfas I like it. Mostly because I understand it better than viewports and breakpoints.
# jeremycherfas Anyway, I have the navbar sticky, but only within the header div. So I think I am going to have to play with repositioning the navbar in the whole flow.
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# jeremycherfas I can do it, but I have to lose the picture of pine trees at the top of many pages. To me, it looks a bit bare without a picture, but I do like having a sticky navbar.
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[jgmac1106] darn I fixed my font size to fit for a month view but now font size too small on the individual notes, may need two different rules
# [jgmac1106] yeah I was trying to use viewport fontsizes but when I built monthly views something went wrong, went back to 50% of my body font size...too small for individual notes...
# [jgmac1106] I want to be able to just cut and paste each h-entry with minimal changes (until I learn to automate)....oooh inheritance...now I see what you mean..I add an extra class in the feed and just make a rule for .feed .note instead of just .note
# [jgmac1106] rose++
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# gRegorLove Working on IndieAuth some more, feedback welcome: https://gregorlove.com/2019/12/im-making-progress-on-indieauth/
# wink so if my timezone math is correct the IndieWebCamp 2019 DG has started? am I the first to complain that Zoom needs an executable to be downloaded? :P
# wink *DG->SF
# gRegorLove yeah, SF started. They're on lunch break now
# wink I'm not really complaining, jftr. I never used zoom, just heard the name
# gRegorLove There's a "convert to your timezone" link on https://indieweb.org/2019/SF/Schedule#Saturday too. The afternoon sessions may get bumped back about 15minutes from what's on the schedule currently.
# gRegorLove We do archive them later on archive.org. Realize that doesn't help for live viewing, but it is possible to watching without the download
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# wink thanks, just stumbled over it, kinda unrelated and it's getting late.
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@MeritzPress Where a flower blooms tonight, Devout and purple, With a rift for a hollow power, That shivers it springs from a root - from Pluck At The Offering, Barbarity. Free excerpts. Order at http://amzn.to/2CF8fts or kindle http://amzn.to/2CV3tw4 #literature #poetry #indieauth (twitter.com/_/status/1203421939026530304)
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# gRegorLove What a lovely poem about our specification
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Hit the ground running and now we’re discussing what could the IndieWeb would look like if it was done without some of its core plumbing (HTML, Microformats, Webmentions, etc).
See what’s going on at: https://indieweb.org/2019/SF/Schedule (twitter.com/_/status/1203434862880972800)
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