#dev 2019-12-11

2019-12-11 UTC
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jacky
what is quotation
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Loqi
A quotation is a type of response post that is primarily a subset of the contents of another post, and often has a citation of that other post https://indieweb.org/quotation
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jacky
aaronpk: does aperture not acknowledge quote posts?
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jacky
I'm not seeing them being recognized
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aaronpk
it should do something with them
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jacky
it's from a tweet so that might contribute to it
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aaronpk
oh you mean quote tweets specifically?
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aaronpk
that json looks like it has the full contents of both tweets
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jacky
yeahhh
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jacky
https://i.imgur.com/ffChlIH.png is what I end up rendering
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jacky
I shoulda been more clear, my fault
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jacky
yeah I think Imma just pick out any `quotation-of` and render it accordingly
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aaronpk
i see enough in the json to display something from it
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aaronpk
i think monocle should be showing those well
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jacky
goes to pee
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jacky
*peep
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jacky
yeah monocle does
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aaronpk
yea i see a few in my timeline
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jacky
begins patching
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jacky
oh man this is kinda exciting now
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jacky
being able to pull all of my feeds into one place
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aaronpk
yessss
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aaronpk
yes it is
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aaronpk
it's so nice that i just use monocle for everything now
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[snarfed]
yes! why i've pushed on *-atom. so nice!
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@bixtweets
“With Webmention,” writes Aaron Parecki, “we’re explicitly focusing on enabling the kind of rich interactions people do on social media instead.” According to the webmention draft, such an interaction “can be an RSVP to an event, an indication that ... https://bix.blog/2019/12/10/with-webmention-writes.html
(twitter.com/_/status/1204596700511395840)
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gRegorLove
what is highlight?
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Loqi
A highlight is a reaction post of a range of content that consists typically of just a restyling (like a yellow background as you might use a yellow physical highlighter, or an underline) https://indieweb.org/highlight
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@_JamesWard
If SQL were built on YAML SELECT: - num - name FROM: - customers WHERE EXISTS: SELECT: - name FROM: - orders WHERE: AND: - EQUALS: - customers.num - orders.customer_num - LT: - price - 50
(twitter.com/_/status/1204506210986266628)
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[Rose]
Question: for link previews on a like, favourite, or repost type of post, would you expect the code that offers the type of post to handle fetching and displaying relevant data, or a theme/other element?
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GWG_
[Rose]: Many people don't
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GWG_
I believe in context
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[Rose]
As in, don't want a preview?
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[Rose]
I think context is crucial
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[Rose]
What is a like without context?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "like without context" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "like without context is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[Rose]
I was just doing some reading of the MF2 Parser and OpenGraph stuff, I think I need both of those to be able to use likes and reposts properly
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GWG_
[Rose]: I use both
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GWG_
I am more obsessive than most in getting good data
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GWG_
aaronpk has xray
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Loqi
[dshanske] parse-this: Parse This Parsing Library for WordPress- Can Act as a Standalone Plugin
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GWG_
Parse This
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GWG_
That's the ogp stuff.
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GWG_
[Rose]: I missed in the context of the discussion yesterday...what URL was it having trouble with?
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[Rose]
All of them
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[Rose]
None of my likes or reposts seem to be working
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[Rose]
We should move to the WP channel to debug
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Loqi
it is probable
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GWG_
okay
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[LewisCowles]
Does anyone have / know of a particularly robust autocomplete / typeahead component?
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[KevinMarks]
Awesomplete is great
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@kevinmarks
↩️ Hi chaps, we may be able to save you a lot of effort, as we already have a set of open standards developed by the #indieweb community and standardised through w3c - micropub, webmention, websub and more in development with microsub too http://chat.indieweb.org for more
(twitter.com/_/status/1204769210259386369)
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[LewisCowles]
[kevinmarks] we are using that. Perhaps it’s how we’re using it. (wrapped in Stimulus JS, adding many new behaviours).
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[LewisCowles]
Things like linked fields on select, showing avatars in the item
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[LewisCowles]
conditional disable / enable of up-serted values
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[KevinMarks]
The core code of it is very good, but look at the different ways of getting it the list of items to complete over.
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@ramiroruiz
↩️ I get the tweet content with this https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/6010ec197fd8406fb74f4d8559e3795e I send it to another that asks my reply and publish the md files, after netlify deploys I send a webmention to http://brid.gy to publish it on twitter. (https://ramiroruiz.com/replies/2019/12/11/08-48-59)
(twitter.com/_/status/1204775519016886272)
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@ramiroruiz
↩️ I get the tweet content with this https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/6010ec197fd8406fb74f4d8559e3795e I send it to another that asks my reply and publish the md files, after netlify deploys I send a webmention to http://brid.gy to publish it on twitter. (https://ramiroruiz.com/replies/2019/12/11/08-48-59)
(twitter.com/_/status/1204775519016886272)
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@jack
Twitter is funding a small independent team of up to five open source architects, engineers, and designers to develop an open and decentralized standard for social media. The goal is for Twitter to ultimately be a client of this standard. 🧵
(twitter.com/_/status/1204766078468911106)
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[tantek]
[snarfed] [benatwork] please consider responding and applying
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[snarfed]
oh god no definitely nowhere near my career trajectory
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[snarfed]
thank you for the vote of confidence though!
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swentel
come on [snarfed] , we support you :)
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swentel
(and then secretly make bridgy better heh)
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swentel
ok, drupal micropub handles hcard add/create/update/list
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swentel
on to indigenous now
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@jimniels
Post to my personal blog and respond to webmentions via the twitter client? #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/1204791940157517824)
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
What I am missing that my posts, especially my likes look broken on the alltogethernow reader?
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
Image for slack users
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
```<item>
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
<title/>
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:32:55 -0600</pubDate>
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
<description>
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
<span class="heart">🖤</span>
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
Liked
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Loqi
[Ramiro Ruiz] 🖤 Liked a tweet by davatron5000
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Loqi
[Ramiro Ruiz] 🖤 Liked a tweet by davatron5000
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
by
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
<a class="u-like-of" href="https://twitter.com/davatron5000/status/1204505640225460225">a tweet</a>
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@davatron5000
Stages of Side Project Grief 1. Making something = too much computer, but hell yeah! 2. Allow users to generate a thing = fun 3. Allow users to edit the thing = ugh 4. Allow users to have multiple of thing = ughck 5. Allow users to log in = tbh I stopped having fun at step 2
(twitter.com/_/status/1204505640225460225)
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
<a href="https://twitter.com/davatron5000">davatron5000</a>
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
</description>
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
</item>```
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
from my feed
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aaronpk
is that RSS??
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[grantcodes]
Whatever server you're using probably doesn't pick up microformats from non html
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aaronpk
yeah i don't think you're gonna have much luck mixing microformats with rss
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[schmarty]
but a reader which is following that feed _as_ RSS should have no problem displaying the HTML in the item descriptions, right?
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aaronpk
i dont' think the html is escaped properly for rss
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[grantcodes]
[Ramiro_Ruiz] add the `u-like-of` https://ramiroruiz.com/likes/ and follow the html page and it should look good
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
> escaped properly for rss
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
Ok now I know the problem, I look into it to change my rss template. Thank you
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[snarfed]
CDATA is one easy way to do that. eg granary uses it
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
I don’t know much about that but I do use CDATA to show my images on rss, so is wrapping my html tags from
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
to
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
```<span class="heart">🖤</span> Liked```
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
```<![CDATA[<span class="heart">🖤</span> ]]>Liked```
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
would work? or is not as simple as that?
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[snarfed]
simple as that. even just one for the entire contents. feel free to use https://granary.io/ for examples
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[Ramiro_Ruiz]
Awesome! thank you
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GWG_
swentel: You are giving me a lot of homework
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[davidmead]
I’ll have to look into that too as images in my RSS feed only sometimes seem to show
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jamietanna[m]
is aaronpk or anyone versed in Webmention.io able to give me a hand trying to investigate / fix https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/140 ? I can't seem to get the project running locally, which isn't ideal, but the first thing for this is seeing if we can find out why Webmention.io is being confused by multiple URLs in the post
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Loqi
[jamietanna] #140 Bookmarks/likes not rendering correctly when post has multiple `u-url`s
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gRegorLove
Is your setup sending webmentions to all URLs in the page? It looks like it's sending a wm from your post to your profile url, right?
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gRegorLove
that first example at least. Second one from aaronpk is odd
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swentel
GWG_, I almost have contacts management in indigenous too
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swentel
add/update/delete/list and adding from timeline too
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swentel
so even more homework ;)
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swentel
testing pkce as well with wordpress indieauth
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swentel
will use that as inspiration for the drupal version
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swentel
the contact list could open up a possibility to start experimenting with private webmentions too, although that's tricky business of course
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swentel
I'm still not even sure whether I really want it anyway
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@JesperBylund
I’ve been looking at ways of doing this for years. Engaging in indie web projects about webmentions. This could really make this a reality. Twitter the infrastructure is too important to be left to Twitter the company.
(twitter.com/_/status/1204872452465201153)
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GWG_
I had this idea to turn my website into a CardDAV server so I could unify my contact lists
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GWG_
You then add in refresh via h-card...
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GWG_
And auth for extra hidden fields..
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GWG_
It's part of the design for the contact list plugin I'll build someday
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[tantek]
hot day today!
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[tantek]
Anyone got something for the gift calendar, or for yesterday too?
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GWG_
[tantek]: If I upload some video, is that a gift?
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[tantek]
Video post production is work. So yes, uploading IWC video definitely counts as quite a nice gift!
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[tantek]
We've done the same for major wiki contributions too
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GWG_
[tantek]: I will try to do the Zoom recordings soon
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GWG_
I still need to block time to learn video production