#dev 2019-12-28

2019-12-28 UTC
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marinin[t] one thing I'd like to have for RFCs is bozo rating, that is to see has anyone ever successfully implemented particular spec
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marinin[t] e.g., https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5005 Feed Paging and Archiving describes a solution to a philosophical problem I do have, but I don't know if any Atom reader supports it
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marinin[t] https://github.com/newsboat/newsboat/issues/628 googling by RFC-5005 brings this github issue, where the poster asks the same question, so I guess not?
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Loqi [Minoru] #628 Implement RFC 5005
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[tantek] RFC doesn’t mean anyone has actually prototyped it or if there’s a test suite
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[tantek] IDK what exactly to make of this besides iOS... zero day ... remote code execution via iMessage notification ?!? https://twitter.com/kennwhite/status/1210657722565365763
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@kennwhite Great work by @5aelo and team at Google Project Zero (see Joe's full thread). Obligatory footnote: this level of attack is almost certainly nothing the vast majority of people should worry about. P0 are some of the best in the world & you'll be phished LONG before you're 0-day'd. https://twitter.com/josephfcox/status/1210558412985131008 (twitter.com/_/status/1210657722565365763)
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[tantek] marini[t] I optimized for minimal file IO for rendering my home page, with a O(1) lookup (just constant time math) from permalink URL to which file has the data and retrieving it (permalink rendering use case) = bim files of posts rather than one file per post
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[tantek] marinin[t] ^^^
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GWG Zegnat: That page you had with the h-feed with the individual h-entrys as fragments, where was that? I wanted to test it against some code
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GWG Thinking about webmentions. Scenarios where a webmention might be sent and the source isn't an h-entry?
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aaronpk events
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aaronpk recipes
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[schmarty] there are some clever things on the indieweb webring site that i often forget about.
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[schmarty] did you know the front page has an h-feed for news updates? the urls point to posts on my site.
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aaronpk nice
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[schmarty] exercises in minimum viable project management
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GWG So, an event sending a url on my site a webmention would mean what?
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GWG Invitation?
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[schmarty] i think we have examples of explicit "invitee" for invites.
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aaronpk it would mean you were mentioned in the event
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aaronpk or mentioned in the recipe
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GWG The issue is this... right now, the webmention mf2 code only looks for h-entry when the webmention is parsed.
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GWG So, I want to remove that... but am trying to think of what that might mean
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GWG aaronpk: I would be worried if I was mentioned in a recipe
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GWG "GWG is delicious when prepared correctly."
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[schmarty] but it totally makes sense if "GWG showed me how to make this and here is my version."
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aaronpk in general just treat everything as a "mention" if you don't know any more meaning about it
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GWG I will, just thinking
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GWG How about being mentioned in an h-card?
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aaronpk I mention other accounts in my h-card, they are organization accounts
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aaronpk so if the okta blog were running wordpress then "security architect at okta" would be the link from my h-card to the okta wordpress
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GWG I think I will just remove the h-entry only check and wait for something to happen
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aaronpk why was it there in the first place?
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GWG I doubt pfefferle remembers why he added it in 2014
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[schmarty] probably along the lines of "don't bother storing or displaying a webmention if it's not 'understood'"
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GWG I am trying to move the code into the webmention plugin, where it has not been
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GWG I figured that I would review everything
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aaronpk as long as you have a decent display of unknown mentions it's fine
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GWG I am not even at display level yet
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GWG I am on representative item and representative author
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GWG The goal is to discard everything else before handling presentation
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GWG So if the author is just a URL it will fetch it and merge the simplified result in as an author property
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GWG I am not sure if anyone else approaches it that way.
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GWG The intermediate step
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jamietanna[m] !tell aaronpk a problem for tomorrow, but looks like the iCal for events.indieweb.org isn't quite working - shall I raise an issue on the repo? seeing `DTSTART:20191228T202007Z` for all events, which seems to be the current time, not the time of the event itself
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk oh noo
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aaronpk that makes no sense, lemme check it out right now
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aaronpk which ical feed?
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aaronpk home page?
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aaronpk oh, it's not DTSTART, it's DTSTAMP
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aaronpk ah wait I do see the wrong dtstart on a couple events
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Zegnat !tell GWG Were you asking about https://grapefruit.zegnat.net/ ?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk omg there's just an unfinished block of code here
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GWG Yes, Zegnat, wanted to use that as a test.
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Loqi GWG: Zegnat left you a message 1 minute ago: Were you asking about https://grapefruit.zegnat.net/ ?
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Zegnat Well, there is the link, knock yourself out :D
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GWG Zegnat: Nice to see you, you've been quiet of late
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Zegnat Afraid I have not found the balance between work, moving, social, and online, as of yet
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GWG Zegnat: May you find balance soon then
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aaronpk jamietanna[m]: should be fixed now thanks!
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jamietanna[m] Aaronpk thanks for a speedy fix!
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jamietanna[m] Sorry I didn't see your other messages
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