#dev 2020-02-13
2020-02-13 UTC
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[LewisCowles] [KevinMarks] do you have more info on that LetsEncrypt bug? I use them with both their Route53 and DigitalOcean plugins and haven't noticed anything, but would appreciate a heads up if my world is about to become less fun
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[KevinMarks] The problem was that the server is running an old redhat Linux 6, so when they updated python versions it was left behind. They want from v 0.4.1 to 1.1.1 in the last 3 months since I ran the updater, and deprecated older servers.
# [KevinMarks] This server is in running code, leave it alone mode. Its an api server with a few firewall approved clients.
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[tantek] [jeremycherfas] I'm curious, did you get a notification from https://github.com/idno/known/issues/2691 ?
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# sivy kind wanting to autogenerate barcodes on my site, just cause it's so nerdy
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[jeremycherfas] I got an email, yes. Thank you for opening the issue [tantek] ++
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GWG https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/49413 - It's about this
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swentel in case you need code inspiration, see https://git.drupalcode.org/project/exif/tree/8.x-2.x
# swentel the project itself lives at https://www.drupal.org/project/exif, has downloadable tarballs there too
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# dansup php exif is not fun
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# [xavierroy] Speaking of exif, I'm trying out a 11ty site that picks up the exif details to create a photo site
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# [KevinMarks] If you want older exif data check my flickr photos, they go back 2004 on a range of devices
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[jgmac1106] Is it dangerous to FTP to my site using my phone hotspot? Seeing warnings about TLS and sending passwords in the clear I have never seen before
# [jgmac1106] then when I tried to log into my shared host FF Dev threw a security warning about their cert being bad....
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# [datashaman] contact the admin and ask them to fix the cert?
# [jgmac1106] I am, just didn't know if my hotspot had anything to do with it
# [jgmac1106] ...or if the cert is what is causing the warning message when I try to SFTP
# [jgmac1106] nvm, now its working, parks closed folks, moose out front shoudl have told you
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# [KevinMarks] Always go to neverssl.com first on a WiFi hot-spot to trigger the captive portal
# [jgmac1106] I honestly think the cert expired and got renewed within the time I was logging on
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# sknebel image lazy loading: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/embedded-content.html#attr-img-loading
# superkuh Oh wow. You can have some browsers do that without using JS? That's cool.
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# [KevinMarks] that's been in chrome for a while - I added it to svgshare
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# [jgmac1106] tantek do you have a place you are documenting you way too manual photo workflow. I will add mine: shoot photos, throw into photostack (PWA highly recommend), resize to 1280 width, share to my ftp android app, compose a post in sublime, push to github, picture done, or when lazy in a rush, just post photo using Known
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "photo posting" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "photo posting is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek] we do have https://indieweb.org/photo_upload
# [jgmac1106] Or should we add the traditional IndieWeb Examples header?
# [jgmac1106] and there is: https://indieweb.org/photo#How_to_take_photos
# [tantek] [jgmac1106] I documented some of the mechanical (not editorial) steps here: https://indieweb.org/Falcon#Sample_Post_Creation_Flow
# [jgmac1106] yeah maybe that is better put it on my page
# [jgmac1106] it is so specific and will evolve, maybe just link to those from https://indieweb.org/photo#How_to_take_photos
# [jgmac1106] especially for people without a media and micropub endpoint....the content challeges compunded by coding challenges
# [jgmac1106] GitHub needs better mobile apps, Been using fasthub but new files limited to markdown, no upload
# superkuh github needs to fix their anchors.
# superkuh What may seem like anchors on github pages, ...#whatever actually aren't.
# superkuh They're javascript dependent.
# [jgmac1106] ....really..wow...yeah I am so close with GitHub actions to be able to having a mobile first experience....but I can't make files, which means using an FTP android client or dekstop for photos
# superkuh Mobile first is like abacus first. Everyone suffers to support bad computers.
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@derivat ↩️ Thanks for the article! Big fan of Usenet. I consider personal blogs to be decentralized media. Discussions about blog posts take place on more centralized platforms, though (since unfortunately Pingback/Trackback are dead – Webmention?). (twitter.com/_/status/1228003080807030786)
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# [jgmac1106] To me mobile first about access, lot of people globally get access to computing that otherwise wouldn't be possible. And a good website would look and act the same on both
# [jgmac1106] half of my posts are unlists because I get too lazy to add to the article page....can't wait till I learn to automate that workflow....in a few years....
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# [Michael_Beckwit my general take is if it’s essential enough for mobile, it’s essentials as a whole. anything you could cut out of mobile…is that part really that necessary for the desktop too?
# [Michael_Beckwit this morphs though into too many things being deemed essential for mobile too
# [Michael_Beckwit and thus the experience is horrid
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# [LewisCowles] does anyone know why basic auth wouldn’t show up in chrome on one-specific android mobile?
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[grantcodes] For mobile first GitHub is a bit of a special case. I imagine mobile usage there would be very small.
# [jgmac1106] I can save a file to Google Drive, not sure why GitHub should be different
# [jgmac1106] but yes...most people, there is probably two others, aren't hand rolling html on a text editor on their phone
# [grantcodes] Because it's designed for code, not images? Google drive is made for media
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# [LewisCowles] Hmm.. On PC Github has a nifty image uploader. So nifty I took it apart so I could build one for myself using imgur as a backend.
# [LewisCowles] It is true GitHub doesn’t love the binary files, but it can cope with them and should accept upload of them
# [jgmac1106] yeah especially if I am just using GitHub as means to FTP the image with GitHub img
# [jgmac1106] I mean GiHub Actions
# [jgmac1106] Not just binaries It is more just saving an html file, I keep templates for audio, video, notes, and reply on my phone, but I can't easlly add them. I should be able too.
# [jgmac1106] well php files, but still code
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# [jgmac1106] on another note is there a way to use a parser kind of like a microformats Tidy HTML, like I could drop a link in and just copy and paste everything in the h-entry?
# [jgmac1106] I like to publish my note threads into collections, right now I POSSE to a twitter thread, use threaderapp, read source code, copy paste and then find replace microformats...just had thought could I clean the kruff of a page with a parser and just get all that is in the h-entry?
# [LewisCowles] typing PHP on a phone might lead to some gorgeous code
# [LewisCowles] no need to worry about the 80-char soft-limit
# [LewisCowles] you can run php & termux on android phones at least, download keys and push to github manually
# [jgmac1106] I only add the content, change dt-published, and urls, never done it, just thought about. I do use an FTP client on my phone.,
# [jgmac1106] also part of my how do I automate the rel next and prev links convo from yesterday....if I can do that...I only have to change date and content
# [jgmac1106] automating date requires storage...not ready for that at my current stage of learning
# [jgmac1106] [LewisCowles] the sublime android app is nice, has buttons for most common stuff based on what language you choose
# [LewisCowles] sublime text has an android app?
# [LewisCowles] I wonder if I can use one of my licenses to activate it
# [LewisCowles] looks like it's not the same company
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# [jgmac1106] that is shady, I may uninstall on principle alone, it is a decent app too
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gRegorLove [jgmac1106], you could sanitize and use the date from the URL to create a PHP DateTime object, then use DateTime::modify() to get the next/prev
# [jgmac1106] <-- has an Austin goal and someone to lean on
# gRegorLove after sanitizing, something like: `$dt = new DateTime($sanitized_date_string); $dt->modify('-1 day'); $prev = $dt->format('Y-m-d'); $dt->modify('+2 day'); $next = $dt->format('Y-m-d');`
# [jgmac1106] gRegorLove++
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# gRegorLove [jgmac1106], Will you be in person or remote?
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# [jgmac1106] I have approval from work, just got it, have to get approval on the homefront tonight....I should go look at airfare
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# [jgmac1106] yeah i just got the email with the travel approval....I also just spent a ton of money on what was supposed to be just an oil change, flight not bad out of Providence...hopefully I make it in person
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# [LewisCowles] can you be sure you always have a post per-day?
# [LewisCowles] if you don't I think it'll 404
# [jgmac1106] Now i need bot to do a random repost a day...
# gRegorLove Yeah, don't think you'll get around that sans db though
# [LewisCowles] from yesterday. PHP has filesystem iterators. As long as it's not run per-request, but at a time in the day, you can get a random post from just the filesystem.
# [LewisCowles] You should absolutely use a database for it, but you can do some gnarly stuff using PHP and a filesystem https://www.php.net/manual/en/class.recursivedirectoryiterator.php
# [LewisCowles] You can also create symbolic links if a day is missing. I would try to avoid it, but it's do-able and was why I was suggesting yesterday working from existing things like files and database records, over things that might throw up unexpected technical complexity
# [LewisCowles] One way to avoid could also be having a useful 404 page, perhaps a differentiated one for missing days which redirects to the date -1 day. You could wind up in a chain, so refresh tags might be preferable to 3XX / location redirects; but there are always wonderful options
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