#dev 2020-04-09

2020-04-09 UTC
gRegorLove, [chrisaldrich], TGiske, zenen, dougbeal|mb1, beko, chrisaldrich and mitchell joined the channel
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zenen
what's the community consensus on taking bits from other people's websites?
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zenen
design is still in the realm of open-source ethics, right?
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gRegorLove
ping [schmarty]
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jacky
zenen: I usually cite where I get inspiration / ideas from
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zenen
jacky: that seems fair, cool
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[schmarty]
gRegorLove: I did not. I should! Need to update it for CircuitPython 5 and make it less of a hack.
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gRegorLove
Kongaloosh was talking about wanting to do something like that with articles from posts. I remembered you'd done that. Still using it?
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[LewisCowles]
!tell zenen I think when borrowing design, it also helps to keep the wrote copy local to your PC, and then experiment with a design
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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crab
the wrote copy?
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[LewisCowles]
not wrote copy (text or design assets). That's what I mean about experiment with design. Make it your own (not changing words in copy either)
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[LewisCowles]
so first iteration could be use placehold.it or similar to put in generic graphic replacement assets
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[LewisCowles]
then a fun ipsum generator
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[LewisCowles]
then adjusting dimensions, or deleting elements
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[LewisCowles]
try what it would look like inverted
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[LewisCowles]
think about what it would look like off; no-CSS, unmet breakpoints or reduced support
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[LewisCowles]
I'll be honest I built up such a process that I use it to get me and others to tell me not to design
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[jgmac1106]
What is xfn?
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Loqi
XFN (XHTML Friends Network) is the network of visible links across blogs that claim various XFN relationships with/to each other https://indieweb.org/XFN
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[LewisCowles]
f****** gutenberg
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[LewisCowles]
wordpress--
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Loqi
wordpress has -1 karma over the last year
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[LewisCowles]
gutenberg--
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Loqi
gutenberg has -1 karma over the last year
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[LewisCowles]
5.4 breaks a plugin with a rather gnarly problem. The WP editor displays content in a sandboxed iframe. In order to display plugins that use JS I load their JS and inject it into a "block" which is a sandboxed iframe, which redirects infinitely back to itself loading the frontend, then the sandboxed iframe ad-infinitum. When I stop including the JS in the iframe, that problem abates only to find their public API has "revised". and I need
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[LewisCowles]
to unpick which parts have changed between the last release and this one
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[LewisCowles]
:face_with_symbols_on_mouth:
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crab
is there a :face_without_symbols_on_mouth: ?
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[LewisCowles]
most of them
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[LewisCowles]
although if I do wind up in the face-mask crowd, I might get one with symbols on it
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[LewisCowles]
it could be like those dog-jackets to notify people of demeanour
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[LewisCowles]
the one with symbols on is "blunt, with a low tolerance for discomfort"
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jeremycherfas
Dog jackets?
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[LewisCowles]
Some people buy their pets special jackets or leads with colours to signify how to interact with them. The worst being "don't"
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[LewisCowles]
The best being bring your good boy and little ones over
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[LewisCowles]
damn memes of dogs are gendered. good boy -> pet dog
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[LewisCowles]
I know they are not the same and apologise
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jeremycherfas
Interesting; never come across that myself.
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jgmac1106
the amount of clothes your pet wears is directly proportional to how much I want to punch you in the face
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[g33kcentric]
🤣
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jgmac1106
strange dev topic though…will have to mark up my desire
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106
!tell aaronpk we really need to finish the “not-it emoji” application. where does it live now?
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jamietanna[m]
Zenen if you're copying bits of code make sure you reach out to the author about licensing, you will not be allowed to reuse by default
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[schmarty]
gRegorLove: the one place I have the PyPortal microsub photo viewer working is on my desk at work, so I am not using that at the moment
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swentel
what is pyportal?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "pyportal" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "pyportal is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106
!tell LewisCowles I didin’t pick up your img on this: https://lewiscowles.co.uk/blog/credibility/ excited to read thx for sharing
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[KevinMarks]
My dogs wear coats to keep them warm in winter
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[schmarty]
swentel: probably not enough IndieWeb relevance for a wiki page yet, but it's this device: https://www.adafruit.com/product/4465 (disclosure, I work for Adafruit)
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[schmarty]
Oops that's the tiny one. This one is the "regular" size: https://www.adafruit.com/product/4116
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[LewisCowles]
[jgmac1106] I'm sure it was in jest, but I'm not sure where the emotion over practical or non-harmful pet-clothing comes from
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Loqi
[LewisCowles]: jgmac1106 left you a message 4 minutes ago: I didin’t pick up your img on this: https://lewiscowles.co.uk/blog/credibility/ excited to read thx for sharing
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swentel
[schmarty], ah ok :)
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[jgmac1106]
I moved to chat, I just like big furry winter dogs...like all over emotional responses it comes from deep seeded personal bias
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jgmac1106
kevinmarks all that dog talk I had to do a dog poem, and today’s theme is concrete poems, what do I have to do preserve spaces again for this: https://github.com/jgmac1106/homepage/blob/master/notes/2020-04-09-1.php should I use an html entity…you tolg me something like option+ spacebar
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jgmac1106
gonna try pre
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jgmac1106
beter but now I have a fat dog, gonna mess with my width
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jgmac1106
set pre width to a hundred, just gonna add an img of that tnot fat dog as well
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[LewisCowles]
you can also set pre `overflow: auto` and provide a max-width / max-height to allow for scrolling of code or things where the effect is desirable
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swentel
hmm, does indigenous ios support multiple accounts?
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swentel
I think so right?
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[tantek]
still hoping for an iOS indigenous update with the new no-sign-in features!
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[jgmac1106]
Better option, switch to Android, jk aside [eddie] crazy busy with two under two. I think he opened up development to others. Can't recall
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jacky
I'm still wondering if it makes sense / is feasible to capture the things I listen to and watch on my own system
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jacky
like end-goal is to have it be contextually present on my site but :thinking:
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jacky
I have this thing slated such that if I write a post that takes as long to read as the song I was playing as I was writing it (delta 30 seconds), then I'd link it somewhere on the page
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Loqi
aaronpk: jgmac1106 left you a message 10 hours, 36 minutes ago: we really need to finish the “not-it emoji” application. where does it live now?
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jacky
either and/or doing it for TV (b/c I def want to get back into like "live posting" as I watch something); makes it easier to give some sense of a review
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jacky
the latter would be trickier b/c I could be just posting something out of band and not necessarily related to the show
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@ChasAHKnight
↩️ @levijwest told me about visiting a cracking museum in Columbia dedicated to these. Maybe in the now shifting geostrategic order others will take the microsub path blazed by the Italians in 1930's, followed by the Yugoslavs in the 1980's and now practiced by the Iranians.
(twitter.com/_/status/1248374615962877952)
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