#dev 2020-04-13
2020-04-13 UTC
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[LewisCowles] jamietanna++
# [LewisCowles] > what sort of socialisation is required to let them know?
# [LewisCowles] firefox++ for json viewer, which I occasionally wish I could turn off
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KartikPrabhu I thought there was a thing to view the raw json no?
# KartikPrabhu there is a little thing on top that shows "raw data"
# KartikPrabhu at least in my FF
# KartikPrabhu it also has a thing to show headers
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# dansup !tell [snarfed] those bugfix PRs should be deployed to pixelfed.social tomorrow :)
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# [LewisCowles] damn... so it does 😊
# [LewisCowles] I'm just blind Jacky
# [LewisCowles] I need those new-style sales buttons which are huge to read some of the web
# [LewisCowles] I think contrast plays a part too
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beko https://beko.famkos.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/gnome-shell-screenshot-3ZV0I0.png that's all I get. Tried curl and even a "real browser" (FF)
# beko Website in question is https://gergolippai.com/ - owner just installed Webmentions so I was giving it a shot. Informed owner via Mastodon. Let's see.
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Loqi mod_security is a web application firewall for the Apache web server https://indieweb.org/mod_security
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Zegnat Apache << [[mod_security]]
# Loqi ok, I added "[[mod_security]]" to the "See Also" section of /Apache https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=69498&oldid=61179
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# [LewisCowles] @beko, can you try it in a browser, like firefox or chrome and copy as curl?
# [LewisCowles] I find it helps to have a real browser request and then delete properties
# [LewisCowles] rather than adding one at a time
# [LewisCowles] only if the browser is successful
# [LewisCowles] if it's not then it's just CloudFlare being awful
# [LewisCowles] Ah, then they should not be able to offer their awful service
# [LewisCowles] step 1 of an internet service is to be transparent
# [LewisCowles] theirs started offering people a way to get around being negligent with handling load. Now years later they admit there is more to keeping a site up.
# Zegnat My bet is still on some WordPress specific security policy having been turned on, possibly related to /wp-json/, that is now coming back to bite.
# Zegnat !tell aaronpk what is the requirement for showing the “next” button at the bottom of a feed? I see it for https://aaronparecki.com/tag/nintendoswitch even though there are no more posts
# [LewisCowles] [Zegnat] @beko surely webmention shouldn't be touching internal WordPress /wp-json/ endpoints?
# [LewisCowles] could experiment with URL rewrite to try to test that theory
# [LewisCowles] i.e. on the server, try to get the author to intercept /api/webmention and change the path to /wp-json/webmention/1.0/endpoint
# [LewisCowles] There is an article top of Google suggesting whitelisting /wp-json/
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# Loqi aaronpk: Zegnat left you a message 1 hour, 12 minutes ago: what is the requirement for showing the “next” button at the bottom of a feed? I see it for https://aaronparecki.com/tag/nintendoswitch even though there are no more posts
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[KevinMarks] The Met Office's choices for forecast locations are a bit eccentric
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jamietanna Are there any Micropub clients aside from Micropublish that allow for editing posts via URL? Trying to debug it not working and wondering if I've misimplemented or not
# jamietanna (preferably web-based / Linux friendly)
# jamietanna Ooh so it looks like using the Edit button in Micropublish fails, but Edit All works - it seems to retrieve the data now
# jamietanna I found https://github.com/aaronpk/Quill/blob/b2a1b6c9d6544708d5092ae47810766eece04c19/controllers/controllers.php#L159-L164 but I'm not entirely sure if that is what I'm looking for on Quill (also I'm not sure I can use Quill due to https://github.com/aaronpk/Quill/issues/117
# jamietanna ty tho
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swentel so I think it should work with /edit?url=>{url}
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# jamietanna Ah, no worries
# jamietanna That's exciting, swentel!
# [KevinMarks] I'm between 2 or 3 forecast locations that are opposite sides of the hill I live on
# [KevinMarks] I should make lightsky.uk find your closest UK point
# [KevinMarks] That's me using met Office data
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# [KevinMarks] The bit of darksky I use is the forecast, though I may try and get the rain overlays from the met office too
# [LewisCowles] is there an open forecasting modelling or prediction software? I thought it took a significant amount of skills and effort for those that produce. PWSes might make that part harder, needing to join clubs to get the modelling done
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# [LewisCowles] not even sure if it's beyond an amateur
# [KevinMarks] The Met Office spend a lot on supercomputers
# [LewisCowles] this was some thinking, although I began to doubt myself that the met office did so I was cautious
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# [LewisCowles] I do wonder if it's intrinsic to understanding a local planetary feature like weather; the need to use a super-computer, or if it's simply the stage of understanding we have not giving us large enough blocks
# [LewisCowles] processes++
# [KevinMarks] It's very obvious that dark sky's rain projections don't take terrain into account
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GWG !tell mblaney https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/36669
# [KevinMarks] I think you could train a neural net on weather for particular locations and it could infer terrain.
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[grantcodes] RE edit support, I'm hoping to get a new version of the PostrChild browser extension out soon, that has really good edit support. But might require a bit of messing around to get it working really well.
# [grantcodes] And together can edit more basic stuff, but I've not added a way to pass in a url manually 🤔 Maybe one for the future too
# jamietanna[m] [grantcodes] thanks, looking forward to PostrChild. For Together, do you for instance need to support https://github.com/indieweb/micropub-extensions/issues/4 ?
# [grantcodes] jamietanna: Yeah there is a view to list your own posts via micropub queries, then you can update them from there in together
# [LewisCowles] KevinMarks, does it need to be that complex?
# [LewisCowles] I mean for 100% accuracy it could get immensely complex
# [LewisCowles] but for better than guessing, 80-90% accurate, Michael Fish level reporting (I'm mostly joking using him, I've heard he's good), maybe they simply use a weighted map for simple math for elevation
# jamietanna[m] Cool, I was going to implement that soon, so with that done I can then use Together for edits, too! My main use case, tbh, is updating my posts' syndication links after a post has actually syndicated
# jamietanna[m] (which would be one of my own services as a Micropub client, not any of the existing ones)
# [LewisCowles] if I undersood KevinMarks point correctly, elevation could affect rainfall in some way (failing to think of other ways terrain could affect but elevation).
# [grantcodes] Oh yeah I'm pretty sure updating syndication links isn't supported in together, but might work in postrchild, I've not explicitly tested that yet
# [KevinMarks] It's pretty clear that what darksky does is pretty much derive motion vectors for current rainfall and move it over. A bit like mp4 p frames
# [KevinMarks] Whereas if you look at it (especially in the UK where there's a lot of elevation and coastline effects) you can intuit what is more likely to happen.
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# [Cheuk] Good news: https://github.com/thepracticaldev/dev.to/issues/6807
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