#dev 2020-05-24
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[KevinMarks] Is there a way to tell programmatically from the status page if the wm was accepted or not?
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# [KevinMarks] There's an interaction with resending mentions and idempotent behaviour there - do you tell them when it was an actual update, and when just a duplicate?
# [KevinMarks] (I had a bug in mention.tech where it was erroring on links to bad urls, which may be a different signal)
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petermolnar [LewisCowles], skebel: I tried a lot of things. If I add "expires", it will not fall back in any setup. I'll test further.
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[LewisCowles] [petermolnar_] could it be that you need to cache bust? If you're already caching a result it could lead to confusion
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@smaffulli ↩️ I have the impression the template is not showing the webmentions #indieweb ... Back to coding (twitter.com/_/status/1264543927262154759)
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@TrailHub1 https://talk.fission.codes/t/indieauth-indielogin-and-all-the-indiewebs-with-aaron-parecki/629
@aaronpk cofounder of @indiewebcamp would also like to see 'apps' that offer authoring interface (like @TrailMarks), without owning the data, be able to share it elsewhere, without requiring apps to implement silo APIs. That's what @TrailHub is for. (twitter.com/_/status/1263458680563019776)
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@loopdouble ↩️ Yep it’s a reply that I posted on my own site, with the relevant microformats to mark it up as a reply. My site sent a webmention to your endpoint, which checked my URL for the relevant reply content, et voila! http://indieweb.org/reply (https://doubleloop.net/t/1wC) (twitter.com/_/status/1263172504119623682)
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@jeremyfriesen Connecting to Bridgy for backfeed and POSSE service // Take on Rules
https://takeonrules.com/2020/05/20/connecting-to-bridgy-for-backfeed-and-posse-service/
#bloggingengine #indieweb #software #standards #webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1263122488680083458)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Is your site WordPress? I forget. There are indieweb tools for this, including http://brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/1262783699181068288)
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@voxpelli ↩️ Been wanting to build such a tool, which would basically just be to tie something like Netlify together with a domain provider and with some IndieWeb services like my Webmention endpoint: https://webmention.herokuapp.com/
So that the UX would be on par with something like Twitter (twitter.com/_/status/1262405736874881024)
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@bmann ↩️ you’ll need to use the IndieWeb plugin to install / enable the MicroPub and IndieAuth plugins
The GitHub page has links for more help https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb/blob/master/readme.md (I don’t use WP myself) (twitter.com/_/status/1261651076274696198)
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@owenconti ↩️ Added a dedicated section for webmentions at the bottom of the posts template (twitter.com/_/status/1264397963167625217)
# @owenconti ↩️ Yep you can! Check this out: https://webmention.io (twitter.com/_/status/1264253224774590464)
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@sunnysinghio ↩️ That's really neat. Can you also grab the content and links from webmentions? Thinking of replacing my proprietary system on my blog with it. (twitter.com/_/status/1264243218721517574)
# @owenconti ↩️ Thanks to @devingray__, the test worked!
Automatic rebuilds of my site whenever new webmentions come in (likes, retweets, replies, etc) (twitter.com/_/status/1264212649308377091)
# @owenconti This is a test tweet testing webmentions. Please like it if you see it!
https://ohseemedia.com/posts/moving-our-search-drop-down-from-algolia-to-alpine-js/ (twitter.com/_/status/1264210115936174082)
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@irreverentmike I noticed this morning that migrating domains may have broken webmentions on my personal site. Anyone experienced this before?
https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/154 (twitter.com/_/status/1264204862952267777)
# @irreverentmike ↩️ I've been using http://webmentions.io for pseudo-comments on mine. Lmk if that piques your interest (twitter.com/_/status/1264176059794292737)
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@billbennettnz @iAWriter Is there an explanation of how this works? "If you run a self-hosted http://WordPress.org site, you can publish straight to it using the slim IndieAuth plugin instead of the Swiss-Army-Knife that is JetPack."
I tried it and got the old publish function. (twitter.com/_/status/1263690612999507975)
# @TrailHub1 ↩️ Missed out the link to the @hypothes_is annotations for the relevant passage in @bmann's notes
https://hyp.is/jWUHoptZEeqMBLMkhwACYA/talk.fission.codes/t/indieauth-indielogin-and-all-the-indiewebs-with-aaron-parecki/629 (twitter.com/_/status/1263459231556141056)
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@maaiiya8 That's cool but sadly it will break webmentions on sites rely on http://brid.gy (brotli is not supported by their Google App Engine (?) app) (twitter.com/_/status/1263350501434777600)
# @maaiiya8 That's cool but sadly it will break webmentions on sites rely on http://brid.gy (brotli is not supported by their Google App Engine (?) app) (twitter.com/_/status/1263350501434777600)
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@EbenOladutemu ↩️ @lauragift_ Hello Gift. So I Googled webmentions and saw different results. Is there any particular one you were referring to
Or any works?
Want to check it out too.
Thanks. (twitter.com/_/status/1263267475531186186)
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@eniehack Webmentionのエンドポイントを更新したらhttp://brid.gyくんがエンドポイントの変更をよんでくれなかった (twitter.com/_/status/1263129894617137154)
# @eniehack Webmentionのエンドポイントを更新したらhttp://brid.gyくんがエンドポイントの変更をよんでくれなかった (twitter.com/_/status/1263129894617137154)
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@lauragift_ ↩️ Awesome! I'll implement it soon but you can check this blog see how it's being used also https://mxb.dev/blog/using-webmentions-on-static-sites/ (twitter.com/_/status/1263041618178912256)
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@dealmeida A small test of webmention https://blog.taoetc.org/webmention_test_1/index.html (twitter.com/_/status/1262949035410890756)
# @dealmeida A small test of webmention https://blog.taoetc.org/webmention_test_2/index.html (twitter.com/_/status/1262949013453668354)
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@dugite_code ↩️ Need to look into webmentions for my own blog really (twitter.com/_/status/1262948174521683976)
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@sonicrocketman There's lots of people pronouncing the death of blogging. It's nice to see more counter-arguments.
But, there is hope for those looking to read and be read... using the old rss
We also have webmentions...
Blogging's death is highly exaggerated. (twitter.com/_/status/1262892610680582144)
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@tomcritchlowBOT Idly wondering if I can wrestle webmentions to the top 1% of peo…. (twitter.com/_/status/1262851014325161986)
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@mootoh Webmention 知らなかった https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1262849774119600128)
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@dolearning @loopdouble - just saw your response to the Webmentions and Campfires post - how did you post this reply? Was it just a content type on your site? Intrigued … (twitter.com/_/status/1262837730133913601)
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@_WaylonWalker Do you webmention
http://waylonwalker.com (twitter.com/_/status/1262823570901778432)
# @lauragift_ ↩️ Thanks. I’m adding webmentions this time. (twitter.com/_/status/1262475929449836547)
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@mxbck ↩️ 1. Emergency Website Kit (https://mxb.dev/blog/emergency-website-kit/)
2. Color Theme Switcher (https://mxb.dev/blog/color-theme-switcher/)
3. Using Webmentions in Eleventy (https://mxb.dev/blog/using-webmentions-on-static-sites/) (twitter.com/_/status/1262465903524024321)
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@o_niskanen Just tried out https://indiebookclub.biz as my first IndieAuth service. Super easy to get started with! I just wish there was an open ISBN lookup service to integrate there. Manually filling out book titles and authors doesn’t feel like 2020. (twitter.com/_/status/1262457351233249286)
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@cactusanddove A whirlwind intro to webmentions https://gregbenner.life/you-dont-mention-webmentions/
#webmentions #blogging (twitter.com/_/status/1262237410357850113)
# @cactusanddove Been having a lot of fun with cutting edge web technologies many haven't even heard of lately! My latest venture is https://webmention.io/ any time an article of mine liked or reposted my static site gets updated. I'll be writing a guide soon. (twitter.com/_/status/1262142837954695174)
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@ton_zylstra ↩️ @loopdouble I use Webmention on my wordpress site also to create bidirectional links between my own postings and pages, not just across sites. (https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2020/05/14249/) (twitter.com/_/status/1261993598704324608)
# @lauragift_ ↩️ I'm doing this for the first time too. found helpful links that might help
https://www.swyx.io/writing/clientside-webmentions/
https://pixelhop.io/writing/2020/05/get-started-with-webmentions-in-gridsome/ (twitter.com/_/status/1261960578580570112)
# @lauragift_ ↩️ oh I'm testing out webmentions on the site (twitter.com/_/status/1261957161334210561)
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@TimKingWriter ↩️ I was. But I’ve since deactivated the IndieAuth plugin to remain secure. (twitter.com/_/status/1261673757602537478)
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@iAWriter ↩️ Are you trying to sing into http://timkingwriter.com? Then we can see that iA Writer is unable to find IndieAuth authorization_endpoint and token_endpoint meta tags. The error is shown in iA Writer but is easy to miss, so we’ll improve this in a future update. (twitter.com/_/status/1261673449052950528)
# @TimKingWriter ↩️ Not at all. Steps I took:
1. Install IndieAuth in self-hosted Wordpress
2. Test IndieAuth on website
3. Open iA Writer and select story
4. Open preferences
5. Add WordPress for publishing
6. Select http://WordPress.org
7. Paste my web address into field
8. Click Authorise (twitter.com/_/status/1261662993009438720)
# @TimKingWriter ↩️ Yeah I had that installed, at no point would iA Writer try and auth. after it was setup. Even checked it on the indieauth website as installed correctly.
Oh well. (twitter.com/_/status/1261657632487563264)
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@NevaX07 ↩️ Il ne fonctionne pas avec Facebook malheureusement, mais je penses que cela pourrait t'aider
https://brid.gy/ (twitter.com/_/status/1263390357166964739)
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[schmarty] wow looka t all that!
# [schmarty] *look at*
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# [LewisCowles] requiring JSON 😢
# [LewisCowles] the escaping really matters between shells and OS's
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# [LewisCowles] okay not JSON fault in this case. Damn winblows and it's CRLF vs LF
# [LewisCowles] travis-ci should strip carriage returns from strings
# [schmarty] seems like it has been working pretty well despite so many changes to twitter! of course, i don't know how much time you spend on maintenance...
# [LewisCowles] guessing more than the company of Twilio who have left a repo to rot, which has been giving me brain ache all weekend aaronpk++
# [LewisCowles] Has anyone ever used https://github.com/Twilio-org/rapid-response-kit ?
# [LewisCowles] It's fairly interesting as projects go
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swentel if anyone is using jquery-form, this might be interesting to follow: https://github.com/jquery-form/form/issues/571
# [LewisCowles] is Drupal still using jQuery?
# [LewisCowles] Do you know what. All my Drupal knowledge is from pre 7, with some 7 shims. Not touched 8 or 9, although I probably should cast an eye on the off-chance I ever am asked to oversee or touch Drupal things. Has the "ever major release breaks things" abated, or at least been dragged out?
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aaronpk I think webmention.rocks needs more glitter and confetti https://twitter.com/heydonworks/status/1264536704876150784
# [LewisCowles] From IndieWeb channel.
# [LewisCowles] non utf8 makes me cry/scream. The amount of random bugs I deal with because someone managed to shove randomly encoded bytes into others products is tragic. Makes it so much easier to work with other people, if the whole chain is using the ~20 year old standard that allows us to all play together https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8
# [LewisCowles] No idea why some languages / OS's use UTF-16
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jacky swentel: oooh see I lean on the Nextcloud Calendar stuff with tasks to do that https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/tasks
# [LewisCowles] swentel, if you fancy a tool that can generate text and has some tactile interface, wekan now exports HTML 😉
# [LewisCowles] got merged upstream for all the feels yesterday
# [LewisCowles] > AssertionError: "Sorry, that's not a valid choice" not found in 'b\'<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><Response><Say>Sorry, that\\\'s not a valid choice.</Say><Redirect>http://localhost/simplehelp/handle?b\\\'name=Tommy+Tutone&opt_1=Call%3ACall+Jenny%3A4158675309&opt_2=Info%3ALost+and+Found%3AI+got+your+number\\\'</Redirect></Response>\''
# [LewisCowles] What having multiple possible encodings when one is perfectly fine seems to result in
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@j4yav I got webmentions working on https://metaluna.io! #IndieWeb tech is a bit wild west, but it's really cool. (twitter.com/_/status/1264636563620868096)
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# [LewisCowles] marketers-- for their involvement in otherwise good documentation ruining it
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# [LewisCowles] to spend 6 years and make a worse API is astounding. Especially the odd behaviour and tests I'm not sure should ever have passed
# [LewisCowles] Tests now showing zero errors. Waste of day? I'll find out tomorrow when I try to deploy to Heroku