#dev 2020-06-23

2020-06-23 UTC
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GWG
https://indieweb.org/2014/UK/indielocation - Did anyone ever build this? Last checkin discovery?
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GWG
We should build this now...while people aren't moving around much
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[grantcodes]
GWG Theoretically that should be possible with together + my microsub filter app, but it never quite worked correctly yet.
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[KevinMarks]
after yesterdays javscript wtf comments I'm now looking at https://standardjs.com/index.html
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[jgmac1106]
tantek not sure where states as boxes came from but it is data visualization option in most GIS software
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[jgmac1106]
KevinMarks++
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Loqi
KevinMarks has 17 karma in this channel over the last year (69 in all channels)
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[LewisCowles]
Even super established frameworks and tools can be hard to grok and troubleshoot. 😞 I think one of the main arguments for static files is they have less moving parts so can be easier to reason about.
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[LewisCowles]
Just created a test minimal case django app for someone wanting to use `pytest-django` as without receiving their entire repo hard to diagnose their specific bug. I Love Python, just like I love all the languages I actively engage in. Great tooling and language to approach problems
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petermolnar
[KevinMarks]: wtf <datalist> I didn't know this exists! (from the article you linked)
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[KevinMarks]
nice, isn't it. If you want an enhanced version, Lea Verou made one https://leaverou.github.io/awesomplete/
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[LewisCowles]
https://plete.dev has a version which supports datalist and has first-class support for callback-oriented results.
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[LewisCowles]
100% coverage, great author, who is steward of sinonjs
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[LewisCowles]
the original author became tired of needing to extend awesomeplete in several work projects. I still keep meaning to switch to using it
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[LewisCowles]
Anyone security related that understands https://opensource.com/article/20/6/python-passwords in more depth than "seems to work"?
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Loqi
Omnibear is a browser extension for posting text notes, replies, bookmarks, and likes to your website using Micropub https://indieweb.org/Omnibear
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cjw6k
what is omnibear
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cjw6k
was it removed from firefox add-ons on purpose? getting an 'oops' when trying to install it
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jeremycherfas
Sorry cjw6k I can't remember the details, but there was indeed some kind of problem.
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cjw6k
aw, that's unfortunate
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jeremycherfas
Yes. I have it working, but I am careful not to touch it. And it is still flaky from time to time.
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[tantek]
hey what's our best reference for how to add mf2 h-entry h-card to a WordPress theme? GWG?
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[tantek]
or is it still hand crafted dark magic to do so?
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aaronpk
aaaaaa github looks like twitter now
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[grantcodes]
cjw6k: Yeah they got a bit more strict with their moderation. There is nothing wrong with it really, but just won't appear again until [keithjgrant] resubmits it
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[keithjgrant]
I need to resubmit it, but I’m on a new machine and have to get it all set up again 😕 I’ve been too lazy to get to it
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[keithjgrant]
(basically, some of the json-lock file referenced a private NPM mirror hosted internally at my old job, and when Firefox went to audit it, they couldn’t npm install from the mirror)
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[keithjgrant]
(lazy and/or otherwise occupied, I guess)
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@JmacDotOrg
Announcing Whim, a new, open-source Webmention multitool for the command line — plus a new, introductory page about Webmention and related resources. https://fogknife.com/2020-06-23-announcing-whim-a-webmention-multitool.html
(twitter.com/_/status/1275474505452998658)
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@tinysubversions
↩️ I can already tell the guide is going to be incredibly useful to me since I have never really understood Webmention
(twitter.com/_/status/1275475046157348864)
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@JmacDotOrg
↩️ Bahaha, and already got bit by a Whim bug that caused a new webmention by me to appear on all those pages every time I updated my announcement post. The very definition of a bug you’ll never find until you ship it! *That means it’s working.* Still digging…
(twitter.com/_/status/1275478449059254276)
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@tinysubversions
↩️ Not sure if this is intentionally left out but I'd love to see some explicit mention of the send/receive mechanism in the "how webmentions work" section. It's unclear that the commenter on a post (for example) ultimately triggers a POST to an endpoint on the receiver's server.
(twitter.com/_/status/1275479940268298240)
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[tantek]
hmm, asking for details in a summary is a bit daft. I mean we could try to improve the summary I suppose. WDYT aaronpk?
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[tantek]
on my other question, since no one answered, I went ahead and updated the h-entry docs accordingly with a more comprehensive example (figured might as well go fix it upstream).
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[tantek]
folks familiar with HTML that have added h-entry to a CMS or template, does this example provide enough detail without being overwhelming with too much text to get the points across? http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry#Publisher_Compatibility
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Loqi
[Tantek Çelik] h-entry is a simple, open format for episodic or datestamped content on the web. h-entry is often used with content intended to be syndicated, e.g. blog posts. h-entry is one of several open microformat standards suitable for embedding data in HTML. ...
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[tantek]
please also review *brand new* example of backcompat publishing of hAtom + h-feed: http://microformats.org/wiki/h-feed#Backward_Compatibility
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jacky
aaronpk: lol you got it
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jmac
Hahaha I keep forgetting how nosy Loqi is
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Loqi
jmac: lol
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jmac
I come here to ask questions and see my own tweets all up in lights
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jmac
(This is not a complaint)
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jmac
The question I had was: am I correct in thinking that recognition of "bookmark" as a "primary" webmention type happened sometime after, oh, the spring of 2018
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jmac
Because I never thought to include it in my own library, and now I see it everywhere, to the point where I actually receive one from time to time (and they are treated as ugly generic mentions)
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superkuh
Oooh. "Whim" seems neat. And it's perl!
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jmac
So I gotta go add this to my library and I'm just curious if I was criminally lazy two years ago or if this is actually a new development
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jmac
superkuh: Yes indeed! I try not to forward the Perl part because it's a little weird, and I hope people besides Perl fans use it. But Perl fans can use it too. (And can tell me everything wrong with the code, as a bonus)
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superkuh
Heh. I didn't even notice it was you talking here initially. 'just saw the RSS feed.
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gRegorLove
not sure about primary. /bookmark has been around a while but it's possible more have been posted/sent in last couple years
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gRegorLove
If this is still current, bookmark is still in the "being explored" list https://indieweb.org/posts#Types_of_Posts
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jmac
Interesting
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jmac
For all I know it might be as popular as "watch" or "listen" or whatever, but I wouldn't know because nobody has reason to send any of those
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jmac
*send me any of those
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gRegorLove
indieweb.xyz uses bookmarks so that could be some increase. I think lobsters does now too?
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jmac
what is lobsters
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Loqi
Lobsters is an open source, technology-focused link-aggregation site similar to Hacker News https://indieweb.org/Lobsters
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gRegorLove
think I got mixed up on indieweb.xyz. it's a syndication target by way of webmention, don't think it sends webmentions.
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jmac
I agree that I've seen bookmarks on xyz, though. I think it marks them with a little glyph