jackyKartikPrabhu: nah so like in the case of syndication-based Webmentions; I use those values to determine the 'result' of a Webmention (or a syndication)
jackywhich begs another question; should we consider having syndication services in the indieweb that edit posts with syndication links versus this method
jackyideally(!!) I'd want a webmention server that has access to my contacts (or tbh just the ability to query _for_ one, not dumping a list) to see if the authors match and if so, to build a synthetic page that links to both pages (twitter, mastodon, etc)
jackythere's a case to be made that syndicated content should be de-duped via the `syndication` property; which might be more efficient _and_ doesn't require contacts knowledge
[KevinMarks]This is the opensocial problem deconstructed. There we delegated the 'who do I know?' problem to the hosting platform. Maintaining that individually is tricky
petermolnarI have an interesting problem: I have a thick RSS feed, in which the description is my post content, the same as the e-content is. However... the e-content does not contain either the summary or, and this is the bigger problem, the in-reply-to link, if the post is a reply. I wonder, how are you people doing it?
sknebelpetermolnar: you could look at what granary does. if I remember right, when it turns h-feed into atom or rss it generates some additional contant
aaronpkI guess I only expect people to follow my articles feed via RSS so I haven't put much thought into what the other kinds of posts look like in RSS
petermolnarif I'm correct, granary adds <thr:in-reply-to ref="" href="in-reply-to-url" type="text/html" /> to atom outputs, with xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0", which I'm fairly certan no reader app will use or show
sknebelhm, ok. then I misremembered, I thought it did some form of "i nreply to <link>" text thing
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LoqiPost Type Discovery specifies an algorithm for consuming code to determine the type of a post by its content properties and their values rather than an explicit “post type” property, thus better matched to modern post creation UIs that allow combining text, media, etc in a variety of ways without burdening users with any notion of what kind of post they are creating https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery
[fluffy]if pushl detects a URL change it sends a mention from the old URL as well as the new one, so that the 301 gets handled by the webmention endpoint
[fluffy]but anyway back to the original issue, since p-name is the lowest-priority detection criterion for “this is an article,” shouldn’t meetable always treat it as lower priority than all the other things it could be? or do I need to manually set in-reply-to here?
[fluffy]pushl’s just like “oh hey there’s all these URLs in the feed, oh the feed also used to have these URLs let’s send updates in case it disappeared because of a move”
[fluffy]I would think that the order shouldn’t matter though? Like, you get an update to the new URL, then you get an update to the old URL and then see, oh, these URLs are the same, let’s remove the old URL.
[fluffy]Meanwhile I”m still trying to figure out if I should be suppressing p-name on my end or just leaning on the fact that PTD says that p-name is the lowest-priority criterion regardless of how many things match 😉
aaronpkit was smart enough to match up your RSVP with your user account on meetable (which is how it does things like dedupes an indie RSVP post and if you also click the RSVP button on the interface for events that have it)
@yenzieHey, @brianwisti, just wanted to say that there was a lightning talk about webmentions at #TPRCiC
And there was a screenshot/example.
And you were right smack there.
And for a moment, all was right with the world. (twitter.com/_/status/1276647997267419138)
gRegorLovenot sure if related but I don't think events.indieweb.org has latest Xray, that's why it's not getting my (weird) homepage h-card on my responses
KartikPrabhu what's "resolve" in this context?
jacky there's some stuff in the /Webmention-brainstorming page that's interesting for use
[KevinMarks] This is the opensocial problem deconstructed. There we delegated the 'who do I know?' problem to the hosting platform. Maintaining that individually is tricky
@sahilparikh Testing Webmentions + @eleven_ty https://sahilparikh.dev/posts/2020/weathering-the-storm/ (twitter.com/_/status/1276391500016828417)
@aaronpeters ↩️ That is a good, basic starter repo. I've learned from @TheGreenGreek (e.g. her article about webmentions) and for @cdnplanet the key challenge was to generate pages like https://www.cdnplanet.com/compare/baishancloud/cdnetworks/ from the http://baishancloud.md and http://cdnetworks.md files ... (twitter.com/_/status/1276454990610038792)
[jgmac1106] oohh unhangouts.mit.edu switched to jitsi and added a bunch of features people might like...guess this could be meta or dev
sivy ahoi hoi
petermolnar I have an interesting problem: I have a thick RSS feed, in which the description is my post content, the same as the e-content is. However... the e-content does not contain either the summary or, and this is the bigger problem, the in-reply-to link, if the post is a reply. I wonder, how are you people doing it?
[fluffy] hmm, any idea why https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/chatter/7465-IWC-Eat-Your-own-Cooking-Pre-Party shows up as a “blog post” instead of an RSVP+comment on https://events.indieweb.org/2020/06/indiewebcamp-west-eat-your-own-cooking-pre-party-DH5F8SRjSHff ?
Loqi Post Type Discovery specifies an algorithm for consuming code to determine the type of a post by its content properties and their values rather than an explicit “post type” property, thus better matched to modern post creation UIs that allow combining text, media, etc in a variety of ways without burdening users with any notion of what kind of post they are creating https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery
[tantek] Maybe a topic for a session tomorrow? https://www.wired.com/story/sustainable-software-design-climate-change/
@andrewsreading ✌ @Reading "Announcing Whim, a Webmention multitool" http://ing.am/p/5j2Z (twitter.com/_/status/1276636798492565504)
@yenzie Hey, @brianwisti, just wanted to say that there was a lightning talk about webmentions at #TPRCiC
And there was a screenshot/example.
And you were right smack there.
And for a moment, all was right with the world. (twitter.com/_/status/1276647997267419138)
gRegorLove not sure if related but I don't think events.indieweb.org has latest Xray, that's why it's not getting my (weird) homepage h-card on my responses
@brianwisti ↩️ *looks at the uploads list*
@JmacDotOrg I assume.
I mean yeah who is the likeliest "webmentions talk at a perlish conference" person. (twitter.com/_/status/1276655946375127040)