#dev 2020-07-05

2020-07-05 UTC
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@snellingio ↩️ So basically it’s just an RSS app, and comments look like quote tweets with Webmentions. Long form, short form, pictures, whatever. (twitter.com/_/status/1279568297923657729)
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jacky I've effectively removed "just" from any conversation around software lol
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aaronpk 👏
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aaronpk i try
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jacky lol it's like a jinx, the moment you say it; something goes wrong
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jacky it's not easy (ha)
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aaronpk it's easy, you just stop saying it
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jacky haha
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@XandraPenclaw Articles on Quill don’t seem to have the ability to syndicate to twitter and mastodo, so I might end up using micropublish. Bit frustrating to figure this all out, but also kind of fun to be honest. Also on: * http://brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/1279580733972119552)
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[fluffy] Oh yeah follow up to earlier, the developer realized their mistake and are now correctly returning a 200. :)
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[fluffy] Also mentioned wanting to add autoauth so I pointed him towards this new ticket auth thing which I think is a much better path forward.
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aaronpk cool, definitely need some more experimenting around that right now, especially on the end-to-end flow
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GWG Did someone implement it?
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aaronpk i implemented what's described on that page
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aaronpk but not all the way integrating with a reader
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jacky https://quill.p3k.io/docs/channels doesn't link anywhere ._.
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jacky I am curious about this
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GWG I'm way off from even trying
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[fluffy] I’m thinking of using ticket auth as an excuse to finally work on Subl.
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jacky checking https://dribbble.com/search/feed once in a while reminds me how little I know about the current design 'trends' lol
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aaronpk good call
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GWG It looks easier than what I'd need to do for autoauth
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GWG If I read this correctly, my token endpoint would have to accept grant type ticket
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GWG How do you find someone's ticket endpoint?
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aaronpk i think it was the same as finding the token endpoint just with a different name
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GWG Does it need a new endpoint?
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GWG But, that isn't emphasized on the page
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aaronpk it's possible it could reuse the token endpoint maybe? needs more thought
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GWG aaronpk: Will wait to see
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GWG My problem is that my endpoint maps tokens to users
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@k4rtik ↩️ That's why I ended up with Hugo. Their RSS wasn't perfect, I got to fix it in 2014. Everything was already there and got better with time. (Just need that IndieWeb and Webmention ecosystem to mature and play well with static sites, and it could be the open web nirvana.) (twitter.com/_/status/1279629234500243456)
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/2020/07/05/simple-location-4-1-5-released/ - Still trying to solve this problem
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GWG Stations, venues, zones....
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GWG_ Did I end up with an underscore again? Darn
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GWG That is better
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@jamesvandyne http://Brid.gy is saying my site doesn’t support webmentions, but the http://indiewebify.me says all is well. GET/HEAD 200 in my logs. Used to work..hrmm.. (https://jamesvandyne.com/2020/07/05/433.html) (twitter.com/_/status/1279710610033389568)
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@jamesvandyne http://Brid.gy is saying my site doesn’t support webmentions, but the http://indiewebify.me says all is well. GET/HEAD 200 in my logs. Used to work..hrmm.. (https://jamesvandyne.com/2020/07/05/433.html) (twitter.com/_/status/1279710610033389568)
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GWG !tell aaronpk Tried out your map code...esri works...osm doesn't, oddly enough
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] Does anyone here post store opening hours in any context in their posts?
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[tantek] But especially, as part of an review, or maybe a checkin comment?
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[tantek] Especially interested if you’ve experimented with some markup for store opening hours
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[tantek] a* review
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[tantek] I figure maybe GWG or Aaronpk has done this
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[tantek] It’s kinda geo / location / venue related too
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GWG I don't...
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[jeremycherfas] I would not want to be responsible for maintaining that information, so I don’t. But I do add hours, if I know them, when I add to OSM.
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aaronpk hmm [manton] for some reason micro.blog isn't showing the newlines in my post so it looks like i just typed a huge rambly paragraph in this reply
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Loqi aaronpk: GWG left you a message 3 hours, 21 minutes ago: Tried out your map code...esri works...osm doesn't, oddly enough
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aaronpk i'm including <br> tags in the HTML so I thought that would work
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[tantek] What is empty space
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Loqi space (also negative space or empty space) is typically used in IndieWeb contexts to refer to presentational blank space(s) on web pages, and the space between words and lines of text, including line-breaks, sometimes used to format note posts, like to indent lines, or with specific meaning like text lists without markup https://indieweb.org/empty_space
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[tantek] Aaronpk hopefully that page has enough how to / docs to clarify how to publish & consume stuff like line breaks in notes & replies!
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[tantek] Worth adding yourself as an example too
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aaronpk it doesn't really
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[tantek] Uh pretty sure we (myself, snarfed, kylewm) figured all this out years ago (what to publish, how to consume) and documented it on that page
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[tantek] What’s missing?
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aaronpk there's no "how to publish" or "how to consume" sections
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aaronpk there's a heading called "Indieweb space characters thinking" which I don't really understand what that means
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[tantek] We have interop too between publishing and Eg how Bridgy consumes it and republishes it
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aaronpk sounds like maybe brainstorming?
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aaronpk there's a paragraph that begins "obviously" which then provides two options
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[tantek] Ok maybe we need more formal instructions then since we settled on an answer and have interop
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aaronpk i'm pretty sure the "pre-wrap" option fails when parsing the microformats so that shouldn't be recommendation at all
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[tantek] Hmmm. That might be why I abandoned it after trying to make it work
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[tantek] It would’ve been a cleaner solution. However HTML parsing kinda destroys that
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[KevinMarks] I post store opening hours on Google
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jacky spending the day drafting a redesign of how I do theming for my site and accepting the fact that I'm slowly building a headless CMS lol
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GWG Odd
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GWG aaronpk: Are you still accepting PRs on that repository we were discussing last night? If I wanted to amend.
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] yes I've edited store opening hours on Foursquare as well. I'm talking about on our own sites
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GWG How do you decide what an appropriate user agent string is?
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jacky lol the internal question
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jacky I remember having to make a fake one for my site
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jacky I def squeezed in `Mozilla/` stuff in there
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GWG Yes.
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vilhalmer I just use chrome's lol
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vilhalmer everyone else lies, why bother
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vilhalmer that header was a mistake
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@jackyalcine Interesting to see Webmentions mentioned on this list of concepts around digital gardens! https://github.com/MaggieAppleton/digital-gardeners (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/778c9144-184e-4c8a-be88-1daddcbb2c9b) (twitter.com/_/status/1279884516061044736)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ When I say Lighthouse here, I’m referring to a Webmention service I’m working on (https://lighthouse.black.af). Not the other thing. (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/81554256-8564-4495-9b1c-124e541d17ff) (twitter.com/_/status/1279921250727493635)
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