#dev 2020-07-07

2020-07-07 UTC
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: see the first reply for the reasoning for this, which kind of seems reasonable though not ideal
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KartikPrabhu https://twitter.com/siong1987/status/1279615361122357248
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@siong1987 pretty awesome for cofounder of Dave @DrWolanin to reach out to provide more context on their decision making for the cancellation flow. btw, i think that the product is a net positive to the world. overdraft fees should be banned. https://twitter.com/drwolanin/status/1279525951471104000?s=21 https://twitter.com/drwolanin/status/1279525951471104000 (twitter.com/_/status/1279615361122357248)
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aaronpk jacky: a browser extension could look for this autocomplete="home url" and pop up that login prompt
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aaronpk https://martymcgui.re/2020/05/25/a-hole-in-browser-autofill-support/
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jacky hmmm
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jacky that'd be way more lean
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aaronpk Clicking the button in the extension would fill in the url and submit the form
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jacky tbh I'd want it to be like lastpass (to show an affordance in the textbox)
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aaronpk Harder to get right :-)
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jacky ture lol
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jacky *true
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jacky okay the browser things is a Chrome-specific thing
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jacky (I occasionally keep Chromium open under AppArmor)
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@ruxton ↩️ http://Brid.gy did that and it worked around 2 years ago, then API access started getting degraded/removed and.. it all fell apart. (twitter.com/_/status/1280369608604569608)
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Ruxton points at Loqi
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Ruxton I SEE YOU!
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aaronpk gives Loqi an eye of Sauron
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Loqi eyes the eye of Sauron
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aaronpk nice
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[grantcodes] Jacky: there's a polyfill that makes chrome use the webextension standard.
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[grantcodes] Then it should run in all browsers
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[grantcodes] Desktop ones anyway
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jacky firefox's probably the only person that supports mobile ATM
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jacky do you know of the extension name? [grantcodes]
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[grantcodes] Think it's just like webextension-polyfill
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[grantcodes] It's by Mozilla
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jacky oh I thought this was a polyfill for firefox to do that accounts thing
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jacky but this is interesting
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jacky cjk101010: I don't know if this helps but I've come across https://github.com/dashbitco/nimble_parsec#examples for Elixir if you're building a parser
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Loqi [dashbitco] nimble_parsec: A simple and fast library for text-based parser combinators
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jacky oh they're not in here
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@wolframkriesing Is it a bad idea to use #webmention for async communication e.g. to trigger a build process? For example: A tweet was responded/sent, my site was mentioned and this triggers a rebuild of my static site to reflect this change on my site. https://webmention.net/draft/#introduction #indieweb #spec (twitter.com/_/status/1280534218184052737)
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@wolframkriesing ↩️ or another example: A online/google spreadsheet gets updated, that triggers a site to rebuild. I am sure there are more interesting examples. Are webmentions a good idea, or is there some better technique? (twitter.com/_/status/1280534516201918466)
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@JamieTanna ↩️ Personally, I'm not sure if Webmentions do make sense in this case, because Webmentions are meant to be sent - and received - multiple times, from a given webpage, and not necessarily by you. Unless you add some sufficient de-duplication, it may still… https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2020/07/kd1wk/ (twitter.com/_/status/1280542578866294791)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Webmentions could do this, but they are designed for when one thing links to another. If you're making new links just to trigger updates that is a bit odd. You might be better off with WebSub for general notifications of changes: https://www.w3.org/TR/websub/ (twitter.com/_/status/1280544765759688708)
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jacky RE: Google sign in https://developers.google.com/identity/one-tap/web/
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jacky this is the thingy
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jacky > Sign in users automatically when they return to your site on any device or browser, even after their session expires.
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jacky that's what I was confused about
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[schmarty] jacky: ooh interesting. i feel like i've seen that in use on Medium? i got a prompt to sign in w/ either of the google accounts i was signed in with at the time (i have never signed in to Medium so i was kind of furious tbh)
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jacky that's the only place I've seen it used
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jacky right! like medium hints you can sign in with it and they've implemented that so it's just one click and go
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[schmarty] i also assume that since it's showing up on medium.com that they now have the ability to tie my visit to those accounts
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[KevinMarks] sign in with google is more integrated on android too
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[tantek] Good UX goal
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[schmarty] i'm not sure i agree it's a good UX goal? it feels like a privacy leak to me.
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[chrisaldrich] I've been irked with medium.com which doesn't want to let me sign at all. Offering me to sign in with google in some of those cases isn't easier, it just creates a new empty account with my google sign in information, which is even more frustrating.... sometimes I just can't win...
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[Jose_Leiva] hi! I’m very new here, so still not sure where to post questions, excuse me if this is the wrong chat.
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[Jose_Leiva] I’m sending webmentions manually, using https://indiewebify.me/send-webmentions/ while I find/build a better solution, all good here, was working as expected.
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[Jose_Leiva] I also want to publish to twitter from my site, so I was testing brid.gy; at this point is not clear for my, if I use brid.gy will send a webmention to each link in my post , plus, publish to twitter, or do I have to use both services? <https:indiewebify.me|indiewebify.me> to send webmentions and brid.gy to publish content
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[fluffy] Lots of stuff uses sign in with google now. Yelp for example.
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[fluffy] It’s really annoying because I have a user account on these sites but now everything keeps prompting me to sign in with my work google account
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[snarfed] [Jose_Leiva] both services! bridgy only publishes to social networks
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[fluffy] [Jose_Leiva] I use ifttt to post my content to twitter, and Brid.gy to get webmention back from it
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[Jose_Leiva] thanks [snarfed]
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[fluffy] For sending webmentions theres webmention.app which can do it automatically from ifttt
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[Jose_Leiva] will test IFTTT for that, I already use it to post instagram content to twitter
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[fluffy] Also if you’re commandline/python-savvy you might check out my tool Pushl which automates a bit more than webmention.app
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[fluffy] But webmention.app is way easier to get going with.
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[Jose_Leiva] ok, will take a look, thanks
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[fluffy] Pushl is meant to run from a cron job and/or site publish hook, and it parses your content feed directly and handles stuff like updates/deletions and also does WebSub notifications.
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[Jose_Leiva] sounds interesting, thanks for the recommendations
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jacky !tell [schmarty] It _feels_ like a privacy leak but it's only Google that knows about this (and they would anyway if you're signed into Google in the browser or mobile devices). It's just a visual reminder that they have an eye in the sky
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk i keep meaning to dig into that to see if there's any way medium could sniff the contents of that popup or not
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jacky https://developers.google.com/identity/one-tap/web/guides/features#exponential_cool_down interesting bits on the cooldown of showing it
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jacky aaronpk: it _might_ be possible to sniff it since it's rendered into the page, https://developers.google.com/identity/one-tap/web/guides/subdomains
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jacky I thought it was like a browser addition but it looks like injected into the DOM?
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aaronpk yeah it's not the browser, it's just on the web page
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aaronpk the question is whether it's an iframe or not i guess
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jacky probably the latter; easier to "protect" tbh
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jacky and there's the ability to make iframes have transparent backgrounds
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GWG \
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