#dev 2020-08-07

2020-08-07 UTC
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aaronpk PGP << https://twitter.com/xmppwocky/status/1291144278953955328
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Loqi aaronpk: [tantek] left you a message 8 hours, 31 minutes ago: I should have cc'd you on this but here you go: https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/52
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/xmppwocky/status/1291144278953955328" to the "See Also" section of /OpenPGP https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71906&oldid=69787
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GWG Rereading microformats issues
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GWG Remembering the proposal to adopt the iCal status properties https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545#section-3.8.1.11
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Zegnat GWG: sorry for letting you down! Had a crazy week so far and have not had time yet to have a good sit down with the mf2 tickets!
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GWG Zegnat: I was going to do it as well regardless
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jacky !tell sknebel I was looking into splitting out the IndieWeb stuff from Indigineous into the Android library this morning, pulled in the latest changes. Do you have a suggested route to take in terms of making it into a library?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jacky aaronpk: what's the refresh rate for https://stream.indieweb.org/?
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aaronpk varies based on the update frequency of each feed
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jacky hmm okay
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jacky how is that determined? websub? polling?
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jacky nbd tbh I was curious about it (using it as my "testing" feed in this NativeScript [think React Native but without React and more MVVM stuff] app I'm toying with)
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aaronpk it's actually backed by aperture
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jacky :magic:
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aaronpk it's all polling, and based on how often the feed changes it bumps it up or down polling tiers
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jacky ah gotcha
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@ChrisAldrich Getting “follow” webmentions from people adding me to their blogrolls is always fun. It’s also a nice discovery feature reading through the lists of people I ought to consider following myself. #IndieWeb https://boffosocko.com/2020/08/07/55774739/ (twitter.com/_/status/1291767990225010689)
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[tantek] Welcome [Nadja]++
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Loqi [Nadja] has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[Nadja] [tantek] probably a while before I'll be able to make any sense out of what's written here, but thanks for letting me play spectator for the time being!
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[tantek] we're all here learning by spectating! half the time I'm skimming over things I don't quite get 💁‍♂️
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[tantek] even something like setting up GitHub pages or talking about HTML and CSS is proper for this channel too.
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[tantek] [Nadja] GitHub pages is a great way to get *something* on your domain while looking for another hosting service you like. That way your "homepage" is at least up & running while you figure out other things
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ You could write a follow post manually in any system and simply send a webmention. I modified the Post Kinds plugin a bit to enable follow posts. Plugins or modules could be made for other systems to make it simpler though. I think the Semantic [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2020/08/07/55774739/?replytocom=298478#respond (twitter.com/_/status/1291823324247465984)
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prologic Does anyone have or have access to a WIndows machine with some version of Internet Explorer? Would you be willing to help me test and debug https://twtxt.net/ For some reason posting is broken for the one IE user I have :)
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sknebel prologic: Microsoft provides VMs for IE/Edge testing: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/
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Loqi sknebel: jacky left you a message 6 hours, 42 minutes ago: I was looking into splitting out the IndieWeb stuff from Indigineous into the Android library this morning, pulled in the latest changes. Do you have a suggested route to take in terms of making it into a library?
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prologic sknebel thank you, I didn't know this!
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prologic Searching for "Internet Explorer on macOS" didn't yield anything like this :)
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gRegorLove prologic: visually it looks ok in IE11, did notice this error in console: SCRIPT1006: Expected ')' twtxt.js (13,687)
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prologic ahh brilliant!
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prologic so tehre is a JS bug!
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prologic gonna take me a while to set these vms up
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prologic even the download is taking hours
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gRegorLove Handful of HTML warnings in there different lines, last one is: HTML1509: Unmatched end tag.
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gRegorLove twtxt.net (123,1)
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gRegorLove Don't expect that's causing problems though
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prologic No but that JS error might just make the button not work
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prologic So much for graceful degradation eh
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gRegorLove Looks like stuff like <p><p>...</p></p>
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gRegorLove Yeah, probably the JS error
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gRegorLove Let me know if you want me to look at anything else. I can try in Edge too
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prologic wow L13 is a blank line
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prologic wtf
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prologic You able to show me what IE think that line ie?
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prologic you probably have a minified version from Cloudflare
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gRegorLove It's right after the async in `.handle('submit',async e=>`, probably doesn't support =>
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gRegorLove Hm, let me double check, IE debugger is funky
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gRegorLove Yeah, 687 is right after the "async"
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prologic Oh my god
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prologic Right!
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gRegorLove Confirmed on mdn IE doesn't support arrow functions
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prologic This freelancer I hired from Upwork obviously doesn't understand browser compatibility :)
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prologic Yes
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prologic neither does my brain :)
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gRegorLove haha
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prologic this fancy arrow function shit drives me insane
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prologic Okay that needs to be completely rewritten
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gRegorLove I'm getting a bit more used to it in some Ionic App development. Nice thing there is I don't need to think about browser compatibility :)
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gRegorLove But then occasionally I write some JS for the web and get caught by those IE11 edge cases
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prologic yup :)
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prologic Does IE support the fetch api?
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prologic Or should I rewrite that too :)
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prologic f**k its hard to get good help these days
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prologic what's that saying... "if you can't something something, just do it yourself!"
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gRegorLove MDN says no unfortunately.
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gRegorLove Is it a nifty JS feature you want to use? IE11 probably doesn't support it. XD
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gRegorLove I haven't used Fetch API so not sure what types of polyfills there are
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prologic yeah no that's fine
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prologic it just means I'm going to have to ensure no fanch JS ever gets into this project
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prologic that means using the twix and serialize libs I have in place
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[tw2113] https://caniuse.com/#search=fetch
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prologic and no async or arrow funcs, or fetch
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jacky it's safer to assume that IE doesn't support "X" since Microsoft's slowed (all but stopped) development on it
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prologic *nods*
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prologic Thank you so much for helping
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gRegorLove Edge uses Chromium now, right?
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gRegorLove So once IE dies off things will be "better" -- software monoculture aside, heh
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[tw2113] don’t all browsers except Firefox, at this point?
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gRegorLove I think so
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gRegorLove yw prologic. ping me if you want me to try it out after updates
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prologic I will!
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prologic as I can't test it obviously :) (yet)
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[grantcodes] Run it through something like babel to add polyfills for all the new js
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KartikPrabhu progressive enhancement?
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prologic gRegorLove FormData is okay to use right?
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prologic at least from what I'm reading IE 10+
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prologic gRegorLove okay its redeploy with the fix
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prologic you'll need an account to test properly I suppose
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prologic that bug was all on the media upload form
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gRegorLove No more script error
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gRegorLove Registered, tried to post "Testing" got "No post content provided!"
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gRegorLove No script errors, though
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gRegorLove Posting worked in Chrome
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gRegorLove prologic, not sure if the cause, but there's <script>s after the </body>
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prologic Oh wow
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prologic hang on :)
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prologic hmm that bug is going to be tough to fix/find
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prologic oh wait hang on
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prologic there's meant to be <script> tags after the body no?
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prologic Or should it be inside the <body>?
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prologic I forget
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prologic probably not the cause of the "No post content provided" though
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prologic tbh I'm not even sure how you would get that error at all; that's coming from the backend itself
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prologic and the form is submitted verbatim - as-is
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prologic i.e: callling .submit()
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gRegorLove inside </body> afaik. IE11 is showing HTML warning for it (but not a script error)
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gRegorLove Yeah, nothing popped out at me on the network tab when I submitted in IE11. HTTP 200 from the /post request
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prologic Okay I'll shove 'em in the <body>
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prologic THanks!