#dev 2020-09-10
2020-09-10 UTC
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[tb] Got a working demo of my endpoint discovery branch in omniauth-indieauth! https://omniauth-indieauth-sinatra.herokuapp.com/ | https://github.com/craftyphotons/omniauth-indieauth-sinatra-demo
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# maxwelljoslyn fdfff
# maxwelljoslyn te
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# maxwelljoslyn I accidentally webmentioned last week's HWC page instead of today's. When I fixed my u-in-reply link and re-sent webmention to last week HWC page, got an error back saying "no link to this page in the source"
# maxwelljoslyn AFAIK, re-webmentioning a source when the target no longer links to source, should cause target to re-scrape source and update its WM display. but my erroneous post still there:the erroneous post is still linked: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/09/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-eKgjOW4KvBIK
# maxwelljoslyn meetable bug? maxwell bug? :S
# maxwelljoslyn rementioning a target* when source* no longer links to target* ... gah
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# [James_Gallaghe] [tb] Great work! I still have not delved into the world of micropub.
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# [tb] Hey [jgarber] / [jacky] any chance you guys could review my PR to omniauth-indieauth? I think it's ready now that I've fully UAT'd it with my demo app, and I'd love to get it merged so I can move on to adding PKCE and token retrieval to it (I purposely kept this PR at authentication only feature parity with what was already in the gem) https://github.com/aaronpk/omniauth-indieauth/pull/6 (cc: [aaronpk])
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# [James_Gallaghe] What is the accepted content of a the anchor text in an `in-reply-to` tag? I see some people use @ mentions whereas others state the name of the person to which they are replying.
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "accepted content of a the anchor text in an `in-reply-to` tag" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "accepted content of a the anchor text in an `in-reply-to` tag is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[grantcodes] Whatever you want I think. Should probably just be human readable, the mf2 parser should pick up the url.
# [James_Gallaghe] Thanks. I wasn’t sure based on the documentation.
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[tantek] [James_Gallaghe] you have to do the visual design first of what you want your /reply posts to look like overall, including the /reply-context. Check out some of the examples in https://indieweb.org/reply-context-examples#Indieweb_Examples for inspiration, and feel free to share your own design thinking.
# [James_Gallaghe] Ah. Thanks, [tantek]. I didn’t see that page on the wiki.
# [tantek] so part of the challenge is re-adjusting the perspective / asking of questions to be from the user's perspective first (what user-visible thing are you working on?) and then working downward from there, rather than from the markup perspective ('in-reply-to') and trying to reason upward from there
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# [tb] Aha I bet that's it [jacky] but that's a bug in the gem then that I need to accommodate lack of a `profile` object in the response
# [snarfed] more background in https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/762
# [tb] [jacky] Just re-deployed the demo with a fix that defaults the `info` hash to an empty hash if there was no `profile` object in the response
# [tb] Thanks!
# [James_Gallaghe] tantek++ for the great description.
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# maxwelljoslyn How do y'all store Micropub payloads on the backend? JSON as received? Munged JSON? Markdown or YAML files? Database entries?
# maxwelljoslyn Wrestling with ingesting Micropubs right now. The fact that "post content" can show up in one of many parts of the JSON is getting on my nerves. For application code, I think I'll end up with something to read JSON into conveniently-shaped Python objects
# maxwelljoslyn But planning to stick to JSON for storage so I don't disturb the differences between "content" "content[html]" and "content" : [
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[schmarty] maxwelljoslyn: i explicitly map micropub directly into my post storage (typically markdown + yaml front matter for hugo to compile)
# [schmarty] then for micropub queries i have a big _unmapping_ step
# [schmarty] i try to keep it minimal but there are a handful of things to deal with. for example hugo requires that "title" be a string while in micropub JSON it's an array. i map "category" to "tags" because that system in hugo better matches how i use tags. i also have special handling for tags with nested structure (e.g. ownyourswarm sends tags with nested h-card data) but hugo only understands string tags.
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# [tb] I have a somewhat normalized relational schema that I transform into right now but I'm about to move away from that in favor of something more like what [schmarty] said
# [tb] I'll be storing posts in MF2 JSON as-is (and transformed to MF2 JSON if they come from a form-encoded request)
# [tb] And that's just going to go into a Git repository with a thin-ish REST API atop it that a Next.js site will consume whilst building the site
# maxwelljoslyn Thanks schmarty and tb!
# maxwelljoslyn Seems like there's no avoiding a hairy map/unmap step, it's just a question of whether to do that when storing the payload, or when retrieiving it for rendering, etc. I'm leaning toward the latter for now; seems that would make it easier to implement micropub update/edit features. and tb, thanks for reminding me that I should ensure my conversion from form encoding to JSON matches the equialent MF2. Still learning about the different request
# maxwelljoslyn formats
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jacky the books (including "Dying for an iPhone") have arrived! https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/4c1e0ff6-c650-4ae0-b994-5b90e4ea600b
# Loqi [Jacky Alciné] Even more books. For the record, I’m at a point where I probably have more books on anti-capitalist theory than capitalism itself, lol. https://v2.jacky.wtf/media/image/floating/1599766724727.jpg_KBS5QDGFOKAP6.jpeg?v=original
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[chrisaldrich] That's a great book cover. I was fooled...
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