#dev 2020-10-19

2020-10-19 UTC
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@BillSeitz From WebMentions to AugmentingHumanIntellect (twitter.com/_/status/1318016740106903553)
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@MaximeHeckel ↩️ @Swizec I use Webmentions (https://webmention.io/) It's all done on the client-side for now Still need to impr… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1317964921875894273 (twitter.com/_/status/1317964921875894273)
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beko swentel: Does Indigenous for Android set the title on image upload or is this from my endpoint? Asking because the filenames (without extention) seem to end up as title on my CMS and I wonder if this is from the MicroPub or the Android app
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swentel beko, there's an optional alt property when the image is attached to a note. And an optional title field for the media upload
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swentel if nothing is entered in those fields, they are empty, so no, no title normally :)
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beko swentel: I'm using note + attachment. There is only a content field. Mayhap I have to enable some option?
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beko swentel: nvm, GWG suggests it's from the cms. Now I've to find out how to kill that bird.
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petermolnar would a micropub media endpoint make sense as a plugin for nextcloud?
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sknebel I could see that. Bit of a question how you'd do the integration when publishing the image, i.e. can you expose a folder as raw files efficiently, or do you need to move them somewhere else in site code
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GWG petermolnar: Maybe
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sknebel in reverse, I could see people want a post to site from nextcloud feature too
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@Cambridgeport90 Wonder how difficult it would be to implement webmentions via @-domain, @-WP user name if known, or @-activityPub user would be for Wordpress … only MB and Drupal seem to implement any method of doing that, and there needs to be more. (twitter.com/_/status/1318161881140498433)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Does anyone here have syncthing syncing to a central server, with different machines syncing to that? I have two machines sharing a sync folder, but they both have to be online for sync to occur. I am finding the syncthing docs somewhat impenetrable.
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aaronpk jeremycherfas: I run syncthing on my NAS so there's always a machine online
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aaronpk theres nothing special about that instance, it's just always on
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jeremycherfas Yeah. I had a scare yesterday, when my desktop machine threw a wobbly and froze solid, that is making me reconsider. A NAS is currently outside my reach, so I was thinking of hosting on my VPN.
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nekr0z I have syncthing running 24/7 on a Raspberry PI in my cupboard, and also there's a desktop in my office that is never shut down, running syncthing, too.
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jeremycherfas A Pi might be a good solution. My worry is the current desktop dying and being unable to be brought back to life.
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jeremycherfas I have plenty of spare spinning hard drives that I could connect to a Pi. Of course, I would need to learn how to use the Pi.
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aaronpk It's basically just Ubuntu
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aaronpk there are usually tutorials for running stuff on a Pi too
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aaronpk that with a large spinning drive would be a great solution
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jeremycherfas Another one to add to the todo list.
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b3u I don't even think I'm able to post a like, because I haven't been able to set up webmentions to automatically send.
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b3u TL:DR It's a static site, and I don't know how to send webmentions via a bash script without sending the same one over and over again.
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[KevinMarks] you're allowed to send webmentions more than once, receivers are supposed to cope (though avoiding it is good). There are tools that will send them for you too
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b3u nice. do you have any links for me?
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[KevinMarks] Mention.tech, indiewebify.me, https://webmention.app/
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[KevinMarks] What is webmention?
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Loqi Webmention is a web standard for mentions and conversations across the web, a powerful building block that is used for a growing federated network of comments, likes, reposts, and other rich interactions across the decentralized social web https://indieweb.org/Webmention
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[KevinMarks] Lots listed there
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jacky b3u: posting a like doesn't require syndication :)
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b3u Thanks, that's helpful. I guess I still need to figure out which pages changed.
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b3u jacky you mean post it as a separate page?
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mayakate[m] <b3u "TL:DR It's a static site, and I "> I do this with a command to check when the latest commit on a file was. this means that you have to be able to map the file to its url
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b3u mayakate[m] ooh, nice.
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mayakate[m] a lot of my stuff would need to be refactored for Scale but basically "cron job that operates on everything but exits out if conditions aren't met" is... kinda as good for my needs as a Proper setup with inotify or git hooks, and far, far simpler to get going
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aaronpk nice
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[fluffy] B3u: pushl is a command line tool that will automatically discover new posts from a feed and only send the mentions which changed.
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[fluffy] I wrote it for my own needs and I run it from my site commit hook.
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b3u https://github.com/PlaidWeb/Pushl this one?
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Loqi [PlaidWeb] Pushl: Push notification adapter for feeds
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[fluffy] Yeah
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@DenverProphitJr ↩️ I've coded, with success, https://indieweb.org/ to gather webmentions, wiki:https://rb.gy/cr6fum including reply-to from social silos like twitter. I still have to code json+ld schema social interaction schema to the ItemPage. NO mention RFC protocol plugins for @joomla (twitter.com/_/status/1318248903918014464)
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jamietanna[m] What do we think of writing up, spec-style, any stable Micropub extensions, so the repo contains implementation detail etc, instead of folks needing to look through closed issues?
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jacky I'm down
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lahacker i just went through a slew of micropub-extension issues yesterday and it was like finding treasure
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lahacker that's where all the fun's happening
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lahacker i agree it should be more visible; i think /Micropub-extensions could use a cleanup and maybe only list stable extensions
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aaronpk at this point /Micropub-extensions should really only be the stable ones since development of them is happening on github now