#dev 2020-11-02

2020-11-02 UTC
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[tantek] jacky, by "single binary" do you mean single file? like I use one file falcon.php for handling all viewing of all my posts / archives / home page / atom feed. and the only thing it includes is the cassis.js library
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[tantek] my authoring side has an index.php for the rendering of the sign-in/posting UI and a separate PHP file for all the logic/storage of handling posting, which also includes the cassis.js library
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[tantek] as well as an oauth php library
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[tantek] the "binaries" that I maintain each have fairly independent purposes so I can nearly always work on and upgrade one without touching the others.
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[tantek] If there's any IndieAuth implementers that want to help out: https://github.com/codimd/server/issues/553
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Loqi [tantek] #553 Feature request: support IndieAuth for federated sign-in
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aaronpk i just noticed they support openid
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[tantek] like classical?
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aaronpk yea
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aaronpk i tried logging in with my domain to their demo site and it worked!
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[tantek] wow interesting. that should mean it may be easier to add a patch to check for IndieAuth discovery first, then bypass OpenID
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[tantek] do we have implementation guidance about how to support both?
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[tantek] that's probably worth writing up, at least on the wiki
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aaronpk yeah and it means there isn't an assumption of things like required email addresses or passwords
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[tantek] exactly
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@Cambridgeport90 Chicken with Swiss cheese, roasted peppers, caramelized onions, sauteed mushrooms, and ranch dressing. Ate Crispy Chicken Sandwitch > * http://brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/1323344181612470272)
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[tantek] is that a bridgy mention?
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[fluffy] A literal cheese sandwich post
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[tantek] ah classic early twitter.
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[tantek] Not sure if this is criticizing NPM or React or both NPM and React: https://twitter.com/benfinkel/status/1297322669646503942
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@benfinkel @tmcw @atanas I can think of nothing more infuriating and disheartening in the world of web development today than this: the output of the command "npm create-react-app" (twitter.com/_/status/1297322669646503942)
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[tantek] lol: https://twitter.com/agentofuser/status/1063464652267560960
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@agentofuser It's time for a new "Panini HTML" Web standard: no images, no CSS, no scripting. Just pure text, styled by the user agent. @Brave's SpeedReader mode sure seems best-in-class, but it would be even better w/ proper file format conventions. https://twitter.com/brave/status/1063202915916046336 #paniniHTML https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsItPXZWwAAZkp6.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1063464652267560960)
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[KevinMarks] plaintext + autolink is pretty good tbh
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aaronpk sounds like someone who has never tried to write an autolinker ;-)
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aaronpk "just text styled by the user agent" sounds like gopher :D
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aaronpk maybe someone should make a modern gopher GUI
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[KevinMarks] the URL regex is the scariest part. Are you still updating yours for new TLD's [tantek]?
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[KevinMarks] I haven't touched the python one in a while
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[KevinMarks] s/a while/five years/
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vilhalmer aaronpk: the new gopher is gemini
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vilhalmer it's somewhere in between the two
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aaronpk https://www.marmaladefoo.com/pages/geminaut "Gopher sites and document-centric web sites (aka the Small Web) can also be viewed"
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[tantek] hah yeah
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aaronpk wow the whole gemini community seems to refer to it as the small web
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] I'm only updating my auto-linker for new TLDs for IndieWeb sites (or if I happen to link to something relevant)
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[tantek] aaronpk, citation? sounds like that would be useful to add to /small_web
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aaronpk i just added 3 links to the see also
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aaronpk not sure how to incorporate it onto the page but seems worth it
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vilhalmer yeah I'm not sure if that overlap is intentional or not
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[tantek] Why are so many people making a big deal about a small web?
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[KevinMarks] It's a small web after all
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vilhalmer I think it's collective nostalgia for the way geocities felt
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vilhalmer and that term is just the obvious one to come to mind
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[tantek] vilhalmer except so many people have different ideas as to what it means and they all claim to know better than everyone else
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vilhalmer yes, that's the trouble with everyone coming up with the same term :)
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[tantek] maybe they all refuse to use Google (or another web search engine)
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vilhalmer google is pretty big web after all
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[KevinMarks] "I am big. It's the web that got small" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3uxY07M8_8
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[tantek] vilhalmer indeed! DDG shows very different results
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vilhalmer heh I was joking, does it really?
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vilhalmer fascinating
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[tantek] and so does Bing! even more different lol
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vilhalmer much has been made about personal bubbles, turns out there's a bubble for people who think about bubbles too
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mayakate[m] the bubble for all those who insist they're not in a bubble... russell had something on this :)
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sebbu https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/7767714a/c214adcd/china-water-bubble-game-mar-2007-shutterstock-editorial-7767714a.jpg
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sebbu they are in a bubble
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sebbu (random google search)