#dev 2020-11-05

2020-11-05 UTC
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@kochie @hugojmd Just read https://hugo.md/post/add-webmentions-to-hugo-from-micro-blog/ really nice! (twitter.com/_/status/1324160559948783616)
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@kkd ちゃんとTwitterでのLikeやRetweetがオリジナル投稿にWebmentionされている。なるほど、こうなるのかぁ。 どこで参照されてもオリジナルにフィードバックがくる、これがIndieWebの世界なんだなぁ。 https://bit.ly/2Gt1kdZ (twitter.com/_/status/1324227813503885314)
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nolith Reading https://indieweb.org/Disqus and https://brid.gy/about#disqus I don't understand if I can reply to a post that is not on Tumblr but that uses Disqus and let bridgy convert the webmention into a Discus post on that site.
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@kkd なるほど誰かがwebmention対応のサイトの記事をtwitterでメンションしても通知がいかない。当たり前だな。http://Brid.gy 使うとTwitterからwebmention飛ばせたりするので皆使おう！ #Indieweb http://brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/1324299708026757120)
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@kkd なるほど誰かがwebmention対応のサイトの記事をtwitterでメンションしても通知がいかない。当たり前だな。http://Brid.gy 使うとTwitterからwebmention飛ばせたりするので皆使おう！ #Indieweb http://brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/1324299708026757120)
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[snarfed] nolith sorry, no, bridgy doesn’t currently do that
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nolith [snarfed]: ok. It makes sense
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zack1 Hello, all. I have a question sort of related to microsub. I'm building a client for myself and some entries have a category field. Is there any standard way to query a site to get the link for each category?
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aaronpk not really, there's no guarantee a website will have a link for a category
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nolith does anyone know which technology should I implement to see my own posts under "My posts" in https://alltogethernow.io/ ?
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aaronpk huh i don't actually know what it's doing there
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aaronpk it might be doing this https://github.com/indieweb/micropub-extensions/issues/4
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/Micropub-extensions#Query_for_Post_List
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Loqi [EdwardHinkle] #4 Query for Post List
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sebbu and there's no guarantee categories (or genres, or tags) will be the same between 2 sites
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aaronpk i guess the other way to ask that question is: if the website does have a link for category pages, how could that be exposed in microsub
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aaronpk it would actually need a microformats representation first, which interestingly isn't really a thing. most people include just the category name in the microformats value. you _could_ publish a URL value instead, but there's not really a way to provide both
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zack1 I was thinking something like a micropub query that would give a template url https://example.com/tags/%s
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aaronpk micropub query implies you're querying your own site, is that what you mean?
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zack1 ah, duh. you're right. No i was just thinking about it wrong
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zack1 On my site, tags are marked up like <a class="p-category" href="/tags/tagName">. Couldn't microsub servers check if a p-category is on an anchor tag with an href?
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zack1 Or is overloading the p-category class a bad idea, since the p-* implies plain-text property
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aaronpk right, a microformats parser will return only the plaintext value for p-*
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aaronpk if you were to use u-category there, the value parsers see would be the URL
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aaronpk but parsers aside, most consumers of the value expect it to be a string right now, which was my other comment about there not really being a way to provide both a name and URL for the category property in microformats
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aaronpk example: http://pin13.net/mf2/?id=20201105155637888
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zack1 ah, gotcha. The only microformats that have both a name and a url are all h-* types and that sounds like way more work than its worth for this
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[grantcodes] @nolith [aaronpk] was right, to get your posts to show up in Together you need to support micropub queries
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nolith thank you aaronpk and [grantcodes]. I was not looking at the micropub extensions, that's way I could not found anything usufull. I'll read the specs and see if I can implement it in my endpoint
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[grantcodes] nolith++
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Loqi nolith has 1 karma over the last year
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[grantcodes] Give me a shout if you have any issues with together
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nolith Thanks I'll do. I'm at a very early stage in my indieweb journey.
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nolith I'm trying to feed my Atom file to micro.blog, but the only outcome I can get from my settings page is `Error: request timeout`.
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nolith My atom feed xml downloads in less than a second so I can't believe it's a timeout problem on my end of the connection.
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nolith Do you have ideas on how I can get my posts on micro.blog?
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[manton] @nolith Every once in a while I see issues like that, but I think it’s outside my control… I just tested downloading your feed on my own laptop (works) and from one of the Micro.blog servers (times out).
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gRegorLove maybe a user-agent thing on the request from microblog?
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[manton] Maybe, but I just tested using curl on both machines… Unless it’s a combination of user-agent and something else.
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[manton] I can ping, but HTTP requests just hang, which does sound like it might be a security thing.
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nolith thanks [manton], that site is statically generated and hosted on GitLab pages. Where are hosted Micro.blog servers?
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[schmarty] haha woah i got bit by a bug where recent mariadb causes PHP 7.2 and below to fail to connect! https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-24121
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aaronpk yikes
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[schmarty] ahaha i already had php7.3 on this box but my ngnix config was passing requests to 7.2 😒
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[schmarty] really interesting to see folks rushing around shouting past one another to figure this stuff out on stackoverflow: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64677836/sqlstatehy000-general-error-1835-malformed-communication-packet-on-laravel
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jacky is deploying a breaking version of his site and hopes it doesn't break completely >_<
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jacky I do need to move data outside of my database and into the files
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jacky bwaha it's broken! lol
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[manton] @nolith Linode.
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jacky had to move about 15,000 files due to a bug I had with discovery but I think my new build is coming along nicely
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jacky it's a lot faster
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[schmarty] 15,000 files!!
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[schmarty] jacky++ sounds like a major relaunch!
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Loqi jacky has 32 karma in this channel over the last year (113 in all channels)
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jacky it's mainly my site data files (all of my precious likes)
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jacky but now all of my feeds are kaput lol
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[schmarty] Hehe yeah I tried to look at your posts and articles feeds and they were gone but I figured you were aware. 😅
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jacky I'm aiming to let granary work on them by taking the h-feeds on the page
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jacky I do want to self-host those feeds in the future tho
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jacky one big thing I'm working on are private feeds and I wouldn't be able to pass that through something like granary
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jamietanna[m] Last couple of days I've been slowly starting on my indieauth server implementation - been taking note of a lot of the conformance features as Cucumber if we go that route for indieauth test suites
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