#dev 2020-11-08

2020-11-08 UTC
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[tw2113_Slack_] i think i'm missing the "u-" part
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[tw2113_Slack_] "u-in-reply-to" needed and i just had "in-reply-to"
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[chrisaldrich] [tw2113_Slack_]++ for testing against Kraft's endpoint! (I'm glad to learn that he's got one and trying it out.)
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[chrisaldrich] It does look like he's got akismet on his site, and it's been known to automatically mark webmentions as spam.
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[chrisaldrich] There's a snippet for it if that's his issue: https://indieweb.org/Wordpress_Webmention_Plugin#Automatically_approving
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[tw2113_Slack_] [chrisaldrich] just re-tried with your post over at https://boffosocko.com/2020/11/03/55780525/ to see if my WP block is working now
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] Can’t wait to see this tomorrow!
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[chrisaldrich] I'm not seeing anything... spam, trash, or otherwise
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[tw2113_Slack_] hrm
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[tw2113_Slack_] h-entry on my post wrapper
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[tw2113_Slack_] <p>This is in reply to <a href="https://boffosocko.com/2020/11/03/55780525/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" class="u-in-reply-to">https://boffosocko.com/2020/11/03/55780525/</a></p>
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] Can’t wait to see this tomorrow!
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[tw2113_Slack_] i may need to recompile so the rel tag gets "in-reply-to" as well
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[tw2113_Slack_] just ran it through https://telegraph.p3k.io/send-a-webmention so maybe it's there now, but the manual-ness ruins the purpose too 😄
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[chrisaldrich] ha! I know that feeling
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nolith hello. I'm having some troubles with google indexing. searching stuff on my website it always links to either the tag page containing my h-entry or the homepage. It never points to the permalink. And this is a problem because, especially the homepage, will likely no longer contain the indexed content because of pagination. Is there a way to affect indexing in order to better position
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nolith permalinks?
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aaronpk I suppose you could tell google to not index the feed pages
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nolith good point. I could exclude tag feeds with a robots.txt as well as all the paginated version of the homepage. (it's a static site, so they all have unique paths).
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aaronpk I forget the tag but there's a meta tag you can use too which might be easier than robots.txt
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aaronpk and I thought there was one that told it to not index the page but still follow links from it
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aaronpk https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/79812?hl=en
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aaronpk "noindex, follow" should do it
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nolith definitely better! Thank you
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nolith aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 63 karma in this channel over the last year (223 in all channels)
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nolith was that the right karma increase syntax?
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nolith !tell [manton] I wrote a tiny proxy into my micropub server that can serve my RSS feed hosted on GitLab pages. With this hack I was able to make it work with micro.blog. But I'm not happy with the result, I'm planning to implement a proper syndication based on micro.blog API
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG I'm thinking of going back to the project of getting my own weather data on my site
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GWG Since I already store data using microformats properties, or experimental ones, I just need to write up what format a query should return to start
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GWG Then, even if I don't yet figure out the logic of how to decide whether to use the data or not, I can display it in real time
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Zegnat I keep forgetting how to do good YouTube embed ... anyone see a technique I am obviously missing from here? https://gist.github.com/Zegnat/78d415d77f41ce330ec59ccbf6d1f1c8
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petermolnar In lights of the android 7.1 vs Let's Encrypt root cert cross-signing - https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/transition-to-isrgs-root-delayed-until-jan-11-2021/125516 -: those of you who run solely on HTTPS, have you considered running a HTTP version as well?
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petermolnar I'm really not a big fan of Dave Winer but in this specific case, he seems to be correct about the fragility of HTTPS, though it's a reverse direction: not because of forgot-to-renew certificates, but because of how root certificates are agreed upon.
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petermolnar See https://scotthelme.co.uk/https-anti-vaxxers/ for all the details on the earlier arguments
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petermolnar interestingly enough the root certificate problem was not mentioned by Scott Helme
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Zegnat I think the root cert problem may not come up too often, because new players do not easily join the field (case in point: onboarding time for Lets Encrypt :P)
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petermolnar that only makes it even more impacting
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petermolnar I still have an ancient android version on a device of mine, 2.3.something, which can't deal with SNI either; that was also a breaking change
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petermolnar though that was way more low level
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petermolnar the troubling bit is that it impacts android <=7.1, and that wasn't _that_ long ago
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petermolnar not the SNI, the root cert part
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[snarfed] still working on evading instagram’s bot detection for bridgy backfeed, but it’s not looking good
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lahacker what are you trying to do snarfed?
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[snarfed] lahacker: instagram turned off its API for non-commercial uses a while ago, so bridgy has been scraping it since then to provide backfeed. not ideal, but 🤷‍♂️
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[snarfed] it’s taken (of course) a decent amount of updating since then, chasing changes, evading blocking, etc. their most recent bot detection is pretty aggressive, not sure if/when i’ll manage to get around it
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[snarfed] some older background: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/665 . and not a new or unique problem, obviously.
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Loqi [snarfed] #665 Instagram is blocking our scraping
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Zegnat Bibliogram (e.g. https://bibliogram.snopyta.org/u/snarfed) scraping is still working looks like. Of course not sure if it holds under what I image bridgy-load to be
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[jeremycherfas] Bibliogram can be pretty flaky.
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[snarfed] bridgy also has to fetch all of the individual media permalinks to get comments, likes, etc. looks like that bibliogram page doesn’t. so 10-20x load (oversimplification) for even the same amount of usage 😭
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Zegnat You can open the individual media permalinks in bibliogram. But it does not seem to show comments, I thought it did. Hmm.
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