#dev 2020-11-09
2020-11-09 UTC
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petermolnar has anyone started playing around with avif (the av1 image format)?
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[chrisaldrich] For the cost question relating to cloud vs. shared hosting as an example, Jim Groom had a nice post a while back about their Reclaim Cloud services and how it compared to pricing for a relatively straightforward WordPress install: https://bavatuesdays.com/costs-in-the-cloud/
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@akashrine Hmm anyone know why https://webmention.io/api/mentions.jf2?token=TOKEN provides me an answer but https://webmention.io/api/mentions.jf2?domain=julien-brionne.fr&token=TOKEN doesn't ? cc @mxbck (twitter.com/_/status/1325920561491546112)
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[KevinMarks] More image finagaling https://twitter.com/ricmac/status/1325915323837509633?s=20
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@ricmac Next.js & Google are advocating for a "best practices" approach to web development, rather than sticking with web standards. Latest e.g.: Next.js is *replacing* the HTML <img> tag with its own React-based image component, <image> 🤔 See also: WebP > PNG 🤔 https://thenewstack.io/next-js-and-google-best-practices-bad-news-for-web-standards/ (twitter.com/_/status/1325915323837509633)
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[schmarty] well that makes me want to explode with rage
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[tantek] allow me to distract you with something nerdier and more entertaining so to speak: https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2020-10-sustainability-radio-audio-energy-streaming-broadcast - the IndieWeb question here is is there an IndieWeb (or just web, or http or IP for that matter) equivalent to very low power access / broadcasting our content / sites?
# petermolnar ok, joke aside: do these devs never talk to someone who doesn't have a power plant running in their laptops and phones?!
# petermolnar this will make things SO bloody slow
# petermolnar that, beyond the wtf are you thinking?! reaction
# petermolnar oh, these are for the <image>
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[jgmac1106] I have been learning about Cloud some of the highest levels of security.... Makes you feel better US federal gov just as bad as your average WordPress user
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[grantcodes] I've not looked into it 100% in depth but I think that next.js <image> thing is probably a bit overblown. It's not replacing html. I'm sure it still ends up and standard static html that works without js. But it does a bunch of good things that can be a pain like setting up srcsets and optimizing files.
# petermolnar sebbu: that thing from Loqi is a tweet; as far as I know, one can't respond from here.
# [KevinMarks] I think Richard has it a bit confused, as React components can look like html macros.