#dev 2020-11-23

2020-11-23 UTC
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@dletorey
My super-talented friend has written about cacheing webmentions and eleventy @eleven_ty #indieWeb
(twitter.com/_/status/1330893854686449665)
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sknebel
another CA doing free certs using ACME: https://zerossl.com/
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sknebel
backed by some SaaS company? think have heard of them before, but no details
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[Raphael_Luckom]
AWS doesn't charge for any SSL cert that's in use on an endpoint (possibly only public ones, I forget). I see that as being directly due to competition from efforts like this. It's great.
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@ambrwlsn90
↩️ Hey, Max! Thanks for your post on webmentions with Eleventy. It let me get a quick start while I learned more about them. I'm working on tweaking my webmention UI a little this evening. And I'll be crediting you in a blog post coming soon ☺️
(twitter.com/_/status/1330937543412609025)
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[Raphael_Luckom]
Is there a way that people feel about URI templates as described in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6570 ? They look like a good option for something I'm doing--wondering about opinions, experiences with using them.
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petermolnar
along the lines of "everything scales, until it doesn't"?
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[snarfed]
KevinMarks++
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Loqi
KevinMarks has 14 karma in this channel over the last year (61 in all channels)
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sebbu
[KevinMarks], reminds me i've checked WKD (as an alternative to using 3rd party keyservers), but... the main requirement is about using a mail hosted on my own domain
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sebbu
(for gpg key auto-discovery)
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sebbu
it's also based on .well-known
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jacky
that was a long post that was so rough
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jacky
and tbh the original post would have probably worked faster than the others
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[schmarty]
haha i wasn't sure what jacky meant by the original post until i got to the end and found it
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[schmarty]
with an expired TLS cert 😂
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[schmarty]
ah and that write-up is from 2017! which is (ironically for me) about when i let my namecoin registration expire (got snapped up 8 months later by a squatter)
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jacky
the fact that squatting can be a thing is a problem in itself tbh
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jacky
for their claim to allow everyone to have their own
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[schmarty]
yeah it's part of why i decided to just drift away from namecoin and zeronet when i was playing with them.
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[schmarty]
i would set a calendar reminder for "about every 4 months" to go load up my namecoin wallet and let it sync and then spend a teeny amount of namecoin to keep my entries updated
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aaronpk
why is this better
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[schmarty]
it was not intuitive and provided like no benefit but i did it for a while just because i didn't want to lose the name.
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[schmarty]
knowing that any name that gets registered and then expires will be squatted. but eventually i forgot and it happened and here i am not really worse off, haha.
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[schmarty]
i don't think anyone in this room is saying namecoin is better than anything in particular, if that is what your questions referred to, aaronpk :}
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[schmarty]
*question singular
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aaronpk
yes haha. that seems like all the downsides of DNS but also harder to use
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[schmarty]
it was! sadly i think it would have been not too hard to make this a good experience??
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[schmarty]
but with the main namecoin client it was all the problems of a cryptocurrency (run your own wallet, sync a ton of network history, buy some tokens from _somewhere)_ plus a no-interface textbox for actually registering data, where updates are rate limited and take like an hour to get confirmed each time.
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[schmarty]
it was satisfying to visit <my short name>.bit in the zeronet browser and have it work after getting it all set up but what a pain.
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jacky
I think it's "better" b/c it's in JSON
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aaronpk
omg jacky
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[schmarty]
hehehe. at least, most or all of the consumers of namecoin records expect a JSON object with some keys
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[schmarty]
but the namecoin chain itself just lets you jam whatever in there and spammers / squatters just jam text and URLs and emails for how to pay them to unsquat or where to get scammed out of bitcoin
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[schmarty]
i _think_ i had found a tool that let me put in some common records and it would spit out JSON to paste in, but that was a huge missing part of using it at all
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[schmarty]
there was very little (and no "official" or "supported") documentation for turning simple needs like "how do i make it so browser or client X shows the content i want at <myname>.bit?" into practical steps
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aaronpk
goes to show how important docs are especially docs written with the end goal in mind
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[schmarty]
i was able to cobble it together thanks to blog posts from several random folks, as per internet tradition. :}
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aaronpk
If there's one thing the internet is good at, it's being a disorganized collection of independently written pieces of information
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[KevinMarks]
if there's one thing cryptocurrency is good at, it's encouraging people to build scams
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[schmarty]
feels like a 🤝 meme in the making
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@AmyVernon
@estherschindler With a really long story first that I desperately try to scroll fast to find the actual start to the recipe but I’m on mobile and have to scroll up and down five times before I finally find the temperature I’m supposed to heat the oven to?
(twitter.com/_/status/1330972256118460420)
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GWG
!tell [snarfed] Delisted the Bridgy plugin.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[snarfed]
GWG++ thanks@
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Loqi
GWG has 25 karma in this channel over the last year (154 in all channels)
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