#LoqiA web action is the interface and user experience of taking a specific discrete action, across the web, from one site to another site or application https://indieweb.org/webactions
#sknebelI did not suggest the site is good that way
#jeremycherfasOf course not. But it does suggest that the author is actually less concerned about making the site a good experience for someone reading it. Or maybe just doesn't know about usability.
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#[Murray]Which is unfortunate, because they are apparently employed as a front-end UI/UX... so usability should be the foundational expectations 😄
#LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "indieauth snapshot" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indieauth snapshot is ____", a sentence describing the term)
#ZegnatThere was a push over the weekend to clearup some stuff around profile URLs and making the security check a more core part of the spec. But we haven’t actually released it on the main spec yet
#Loqijacky: Zegnat left you a message 2 hours, 58 minutes ago: yes on web_action, were you maybe looking for / remembering this page? https://indieweb.org/indie-config
#GWG[KevinMarks]: My Met office code works very well. Although they don't record as many parameters as some stations
#[KevinMarks]Met office makes a distinction between mist and fog, but doesn't have a 'mizzle'
#GWG[KevinMarks]: Do you want your website to report mizzle?
#[tantek]Really enjoying the FONTS talk from Beyond Tellerand (online session)
#[tantek]Oliver is going through the use of different type for different fundamental purposes, e.g. Display Text (for headlines, larger text, smaller bits of text) vs Body Text
#[tantek]Is anyone else watching? I posted a while ago about it
#[tantek]picking the typography for your site based on the vibe you want to convey feels very IndieWeb, like very much an advantage of IndieWeb over any silo
#[tantek]Oliver is claiming there's no difference in readability of body text (on screen presumably) between sans and serif text.
#[tantek]Curious if anyone here takes special care in what type / fonts they choose for their personal site headings vs body text etc.
#[Raphael_Luckom]the link earlier claimed that the difference is in low-res screens. I'd be interested to know what % of low-res screens actually attempt to render markup-specified fonts.
#[tantek]curious what kind of low-res screen use-cases there are these days (beyond very low res like LED big pixel displays)
#[Raphael_Luckom]Old school nokias will outlive us all 🙂
#[tantek]Wow Gill Sans is pretty bad on iOS apparently
#jeremycherfasIt is? Makes note to check. I use it in print all the time.
#[tantek]interesting, for body text, larger x-heights are preferred (more readable at smaller sizes, e.g. counterexample Gill Sans)
#[Raphael_Luckom]I think I'm going to use Tufte's style in a redesign: https://edwardtufte.github.io/tufte-css/ . I think his choice of serif it a bit precious, but the layout stuff all seems perfect to me
#[tantek]jeremycherfas, yes iOS meaning on screen in particular. print is quite a different medium obv!
#jeremycherfasObvs! I don't think I am using it online, but it can't hurt to check.
#[tantek]feels like the kind of thing a client-side validator could check too, e.g. by checking the computed style of elements in your page
#jeremycherfasI'm just waiting for the tufte marginal footnotes to work again with pandoc before attempting a redesign. Or rather, a re-layout. Not much else will change.
#[tantek]interesting, now he's talking UI fonts, which have different constraints as well (fonts for menus, buttons etc.)
#[tantek]Helvetica is bad for that because of its tight "counters" (the open edges), Lucida is better. Apparently MacOS 10.10 Yosemite switched to Helvetica for menu fonts and it was a lots less readable
#[tantek]"Functional text" (broader term for UI text I think)
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#aaronpkGWG: do you know the name of one unit of cloud cover? :D
#GWGaaronpk: Yes, I do. I assume because of your affiliation you do as well
#[KevinMarks]I use Gill Sans as a display font on my blog for headings
#[tantek]KevinMarks, I was just informed of how problematic Eric Gill was (see his Wikipedia entry) and it's gross enough that I can't use any Gill anything any more
#[tantek]On a positive note, now the FONTS session as moved onto the next talk, by Ulrike of LiebeFonts
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#[tantek]lots about variable fonts and handwritten fonts (good ones where repeated letters use different variants etc.)