#dev 2021-01-23

2021-01-23 UTC
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[KevinMarks] what is bluesky?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "bluesky" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "bluesky is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[KevinMarks] bluesky is a project proposed by Jack Dorsey, Twitter CEO, to “develop an open and decentralized standard for social media – The goal is for Twitter to ultimately be a client of this standard.”
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Loqi ok
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[KevinMarks] bluesky << tweet thread announcing the project https://twitter.com/jack/status/1204766078468911106
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@jack Twitter is funding a small independent team of up to five open source architects, engineers, and designers to develop an open and decentralized standard for social media. The goal is for Twitter to ultimately be a client of this standard. 🧵 (twitter.com/_/status/1204766078468911106)
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Loqi ok, I added "tweet thread announcing the project https://twitter.com/jack/status/1204766078468911106" to a brand new "See Also" section of /bluesky https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74337&oldid=74336
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Loqi ok, I added "announcement of their report into “relevant work” https://twitter.com/bluesky/status/1352302818418446337" to the "See Also" section of /bluesky https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74338&oldid=74337
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@bluesky One of the goals when we announced bluesky was to develop a grounded understanding of relevant work that many talented people in the decentralization community have been doing. Today, we want to share an update on this. https://twitter.com/jack/status/1204766078468911106 (twitter.com/_/status/1352302818418446337)
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[KevinMarks] bluesky << announcement of their report into “relevant work” https://twitter.com/bluesky/status/1352302818418446337
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[KevinMarks] bluesky << the report itself https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/twitter.modular.im/981b258141aa0b197804127cd2f7d298757bad20
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Loqi ok, I added "the report itself https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/twitter.modular.im/981b258141aa0b197804127cd2f7d298757bad20" to the "See Also" section of /bluesky https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74339&oldid=74338
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[colinwalker] OK. Any thoughts on why my Likes are being recognised as only standard mentions would be appreciated. I’ve put the comparison markup at the following: like markup The only real difference is that entry-content is on the <entry> tag rather than a div within it. When looking at how mf2-php reads it the u-like-of is not being found
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[colinwalker] I’ve stripped out the unrelated stuff like dt-published
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sebsel hm, you are referencing something, but that does not make it into IRC I'm afraid.
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[sebsel] https://colinwalker.blog/webmention%20issue.txt
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sebsel hmm, if I paste that snippet into http://php.microformats.io/ I do see a "like-of" attribute.
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[colinwalker] ah thanks
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[colinwalker] Yeah, I don’t see why it’s not being recognised.
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sebsel Is that across all sites, or are you trying to target a specific site?
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sebsel The mayor difference seems to be that you wrapped it in a p-summary. Is that on purpose too?
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[colinwalker] It’s when I’m testing to my own site. If I send a like from the old WordPress site it is recognised but not from the new site.
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[colinwalker] That was for testing - it was the same without it
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[colinwalker] I think I need an external page to test on as well to see what that picks it up as
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sebsel okay, so the source is your new website or your old website, depending on the test, and the target is... your new site?
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[colinwalker] yup
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[colinwalker] I’ve got my endpoint to echo back the mf2 so I can see what it’s returnign when I do a test in Postman
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[colinwalker] Hmm, okay, so now it worked. I removed the p-summary and it now sees the u-like-of. It didn’t before with or without the summary.
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[colinwalker] I’m confused lol
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sebsel yea, with this setup, my initial comment about it does not work: it can be in a lot of different places ...
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sebsel I think it's easier to also use an external site?
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sebsel Then you'll have a better understanding of what part you are actually testing.
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aaronpk Also what are you using to test this? What are you looking at to say it worked or not?
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aaronpk Cause different receivers might handle things slightly differently
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aaronpk I'm pretty sure my site and webmention.io would recognize that as a like even with the summary property there
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[colinwalker] Hey Aaron
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[colinwalker] I’m using my own endpoint which uses mf2-php to return the json - then I was creating a like and looking at the json as I have my endpoint echo it back for testing - the [u-like] wasn’t listed but, now for some reason, it is.
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[colinwalker] go figure
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[colinwalker] Yep, definitely seems to be okay now.
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[colinwalker] Thanks anyway
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sebsel maybe some tag was broken in your actual code and not in your example and now you accidentally fixed it?
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sebsel it happens
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sebsel good it works now
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[colinwalker] Who knows. Ah well. Yes, good it’s sorted. Thanks for looking.
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[colinwalker] I was actually quite surprised by how simple an endpoint could be.
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sebsel yes, the parsing of the microformats is the most complex part. The actual webmention is quite simple.
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[colinwalker] Yeah. I thought it was going to be complex but then read the spec and had a look at the old version of the WordPress plugin
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@erikkroes ↩️ Have you considered webmentions? (twitter.com/_/status/1352988400312340480)
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aaronpk Glad you got it sorted
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aaronpk yeah I think a broken html tag is the most likely explanation
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[colinwalker] Maybe. Anyway, I so pleased to sending and receiving now both working on the new site. mf2-php makes life so much easier.
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jacky what are web components
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "web components" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "web components is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky hmm
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jacky experminting with implementing a Custom Element for my site
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jacky to do client-side rendering of embeded posts (like in a reply-context)
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jacky if this works, I might expand it to do even client-sided hovercards from inline h-cards
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jacky 'progressive' enhancement
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GWG Has anyone ever tried to self-host a reverse geocoder?
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GWG I'm wondering if I should try the crazy idea of hosting that and a map tile server at my house, as the VPS costs for doing so wouldn't be economical.
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jacky do they tend to run that high?
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jacky I figure most of the cost is bandwidth
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GWG The 200GB or more of data isn't so bad.
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GWG It's the search has a recommended 16GB
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GWG RAM is a thing
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GWG Besides, if it is just for me and a few friends...
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GWG You can also, I suppose, only load certain parts of the world.
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jacky sheesh
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GWG jacky: I might just do it as a fun project
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GWG jacky: https://github.com/pelias/pelias
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Loqi [pelias] pelias: Pelias is a modular open-source geocoder using Elasticsearch.
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GWG https://nominatim.org/release-docs/latest/admin/Installation/ - 900GB....shesh
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jacky yeah that's not light
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jacky _this_ is the kind of stuff that IPFS / Hypercore should be working on
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[KevinMarks] I am thinking about making map tiles in UK ordnance survey grid format for a project
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@fluffy New post: fluffy rambles: webmention.js 0.4.0 https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/12555-webmention-js-0-4-0 #Webmention #Indieweb I’ve just released v0.4.0 of webmention.js, which adds the ability to coalesce comment-type responses into the “reactions” section. I’d been considering it for a while but finally got … (twitter.com/_/status/1353074569276321793)
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Loqi fluffy has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (64 in all channels)
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[schmarty] fluffy++ that was fast 😆
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[fluffy] It was an easy change 🙂
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[fluffy] https://github.com/PlaidWeb/webmention.js/commit/2869872a3d7d5c9c254e29b003833fdf3002f039
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jamietanna So the problem with expiring tokens is that you may forget to re-auth an app that needs them to be long lived. Oops! When I implemented my IndieAuth server, I added expiring tokens, but yep, forgot to update two of my apps which need tokens (preferably without interaction from me)
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lahacker https://jaygraber.medium.com/designing-decentralized-moderation-a76430a8eab
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lahacker jay graber from the dweb, posted two days ago, related to today's Respectful Responses
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jacky jamietanna: refresh tokens ftw
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jacky TFW you can't use xray for a client side request D:
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sknebel something something webassembly </troll>
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[Raphael_Luckom] what is xray
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Loqi XRay is an open source API that returns structured data for a URL by parsing microformats and following other indieweb algorithms, and is part of the p3k suite of applications https://indieweb.org/XRay
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jacky sknebel: lol
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jacky tbh for what I'm working on, hitting XRay was just a test
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jacky I'm aiming to see if I can have my site do some client side parsing of reply contexts (in the event that it's missing)
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jamietanna[m] Jacky yep! Just not implemented them yet 😅
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