2021-02-24 UTC
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# 03:04 Loqi An icon in the context of the indieweb typically refers to a home page icon for an indieweb site, or small decorative images to indicate types of posts https://indieweb.org/icons
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# 03:17 GWG jacky: You never saw those before?
# 03:26 GWG I've worked with [pfefferle] on WordPress projects for so long, I know a lot about what he has done.
# 03:37 jacky but I don't do a lot of PHP so that kinda closes me off to that
# 03:38 jacky Python is mainly for work so I try not to go _back_ into it :P
# 03:38 jacky that said, implementing IndieAuth-as-a-service wasn't going to be as hard as I thought
# 03:38 jacky might be because of experience now but like this is fine
# 03:40 jacky I'm trying not to get ahead of myself right now and add the mobile prompt flow but it'd be so simple
# 03:40 jacky it'd stand in place of the consent screen (because that's essentially what it'd be)
# 03:40 jacky is doing this _solely_ so he can use his phone to authorize requests
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# 04:15 Loqi jacky has 32 karma in this channel over the last year (112 in all channels)
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# 09:28 [tantek] dang, Fry's has shut down. that's the end of an indie (hardware) dev era for sure, after earlier shut down by Radio Shack (and in Silicon Valley, Weird Stuff Warehouse)
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# 13:33 Loqi [edent] SuperTinyIcons: Under 1KB each! Super Tiny Icons are miniscule SVG versions of your favourite website and app logos
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# 18:44 aaronpk yeah that's the last major difference from oauth that i want to change
# 18:52 jacky wait, does OAuth only require this on the authorization endpoint?
# 18:54 jacky goes to oauth.net and sees aaronpk questioning why I didn't know this answer already :P
# 19:04 jacky goes around breaking clients to confirm ideas
# 19:04 jacky the authorization endpoint _is_ where it should be, it seems
# 19:05 jacky it makes sense for it to be on the token endpoint as well - mainly to issue .. tokens
# 19:05 aaronpk the different in indieauth is whether the client is asking for an access token or whether it's asking for the user's identity URL
# 19:06 aaronpk it kind of grew out of the fact that access tokens weren't even part of the original use case for indieauth, so there was only one endpoint to start with
# 19:13 jacky okay basically got the endpoints down tbh
# 19:13 jacky just need to go backwards and create a way for other people to sign in
# 19:21 GWG aaronpk: Time for another IndieAuth session?
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# 20:14 Seirdy yeah the indieweb is a great example of an open platform that addresses pretty much everything except usability in that article and its predecessor, "Whatsapp and the domestication of users"
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# 20:38 [cleverdevil] Here is my work-in-progress for my HealthKit data sync service, which I am calling ‘health lake’
# 20:39 Loqi [cleverdevil] healthlake: Web service for ingesting Apple HealthKit data into an S3-backed data lake and making it accessible.
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# 20:45 Loqi [cleverdevil] has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
# 20:46 [cleverdevil] Its super fun! It also helps me understand how much of a slacker I’ve been since quarantine started.
# 20:46 vilhalmer the pointer to the health auto export was worth the price of admission :D
# 20:46 vilhalmer I was looking at this same sort of thing recently and was considering just doing the manual zip export periodically
# 20:47 [cleverdevil] I am sure that many folks here will be able to replicate what I’ve done potentially in alternative implementations / approaches.
# 20:49 Loqi [dogsheep] healthkit-to-sqlite: Convert an Apple Healthkit export zip to a SQLite database
# 20:50 vilhalmer it's cool that they offer it though, I discovered it by accident
# 20:51 aaronpk is it actually automatic? like you don't need to launch the app every day or something
# 20:51 aaronpk i saw it, but "automatic" means different things to different people, especially on iOS ;-)
# 20:52 [cleverdevil] You can also do manual syncs at different granularity and different intervals.
# 20:53 aaronpk might encourage me to actually use apps that write stuff to healthkit now
# 20:53 [cleverdevil] Same. I actually got a few weeks into attempting to build it myself last year, and then lost interest after I remembered that I am not a Swift programmer :)
# 20:53 vilhalmer for $2 I will buy it on the chance I end up getting around to it
# 20:53 aaronpk [cleverdevil]: lol me too. except i got as far as looking up API docs for healthkit 😂
# 20:54 [cleverdevil] Heh, I even had it pulling some of the metrics, but the API for HealthKit is sort of hard to understand, at least for my feeble little brain :P
# 20:55 [cleverdevil] The thing I like about my approach is that all of the data is stored in flat JSON files in S3.,
# 20:55 aaronpk yeah i'm gonna see what it looks like to store mine as files next to my posts
# 20:55 [cleverdevil] It could just as easily be done on-disk, but you lose the ability to query it with SQL unless you ingest into something like SQLite or MySQL, which starts to get to be a PITA.
# 20:56 aaronpk i started doing some of that already to show the little productivity graphs on my site
# 21:01 [schmarty] I really just want a little bike icon on the days I spin the bike 😂
# 21:01 aaronpk No need for microformats until there's a consuming use case
# 21:04 aaronpk but it would be pretty cool to for example show me a list of all my friends step counts in my reader :-)
# 21:11 jacky that'd be the final bridge imo for fitness stuff
# 21:11 jacky my partner gets to follow friends w.r.t their rings and what not
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# 21:12 jacky and I'm like the only person in the group chat that doesn't have any Apple products so I'm always left out :(
# 21:12 Loqi silos has -1 karma over the last year
# 21:14 [cleverdevil] Yeah, its definitely a challenge. Apple has the advantage of this highly integrated platform, which granted is a bit of a walled garden, but I will give them credit that basically everything you need to own your own data has an API that you can use.
# 21:16 jacky but yeah, I have a friend that's like the iOS queen as far as I know and she's mentioned that it's kinda hard to see out once you're in and that a lot of what you want can be grabbed quickly
# 21:19 jacky I'm guessing there's no explicit way to tell Bridgy to stop sending to a instance
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# 21:24 [snarfed] jacky: hmm it actually uses the last AP’s result; it doesn’t require all to succeed. it’s suspicious that telegraph doesn’t show an HTTP status. it took 25s, i suspect telegraph just timed out
# 21:26 [snarfed] it does send dupes though, i should de-dupe the target instances
# 21:30 [snarfed] i can also manually remove followers on dead instances. (playvicious.social is dead?)
# 21:43 jacky (I knew it was happening but I didn't get a date so lost all of my data there)
# 21:44 [snarfed] ugh, sorry. k, de-duping is done, and i’ll remove those followers. hopefully that will help avoid sender timeouts
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# 22:41 aaronpk looks like it's not laravel, so just the basic composer stuff should work