#dev 2021-07-02

2021-07-02 UTC
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[manton] Thanks y’all!
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[jacky] random note for those who grok algorithms really well; does anyone have a concept of a light recommendation algorithm that could be 'serialized' into human-friendly parlance? My hope/idea is to help provide a way to surface posts to people using what people _already_ have engaged with in the past and making it clear why
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[jacky] My bigger hope is if there's a way to derive it into a list of people that I can point to that 'influence' what I would see on such a feed and it's not confusing as to why or how (perhaps even like what posts were used to determine a decision)
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[jacky] Like I don't think discovery like this would be bad per se - or in original - but if it was made clear (like ingredients on packaged meals), I think it'd give people more of a choice to be like "wow, I don't want to see this content or this person" and how it gets there to begin with
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[tantek] totally agreed with the principle of surfacing why something was recommended, and empowering the person to adjust things accordingly
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[tantek] that kind of transparency would also help communicate what is likely to happen if you click a "less like this" or "more like this" link in response
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[jacky] yes! that's a good point! could even draw a path for someone over time tying the story of their content together
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[tantek] oh yeah! in case they wanted to rewind or revisit such a decision or wanted to how did my recommendations get into this "state"?
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] re: animation timing function — maybe? Though really the key unintended insight was that no new properties were necessary, that existing properties could be made dynamic (animated)
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[tantek] or rather: no new properties specific to existing properties. that animation could be described generically, except for the need to specify which properties were able to (made sense to) be animated
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[tantek] Has anyone tried or is actively running the Amberlink plugins for Wordpress or Drupal? First I heard of it was Zittrain’s recent Atlantic article (see /longevity) https://amberlink.org/
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[tantek] It’s amber as in preserve copies of the stuff you link to in amber the substance
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[tantek] What is archive copy
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Loqi An archival copy is a copy of a web page made (often by someone other than the author) at a particular point in time, that can be used as a reference if the original disappears or is temporarily unavailable https://indieweb.org/archive_copy
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[tantek] archival copy << https://amberlink.org/ - plug-ins for Wordpress and Drupal to automatically locally archive copies of what you link to
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Loqi ok, I added "https://amberlink.org/ - plug-ins for Wordpress and Drupal to automatically locally archive copies of what you link to" to the "See Also" section of /archival_copy https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=76264&oldid=75590
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GWG No, but I'll bookmark it to investigate
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rockorager I’ve got two things working on my site, in hopes of having a “deploy to netlify” indieweb site with all the fixins
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rockorager Webmentions and micropub through netlify functions
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rockorager The webmentions are just getting committed to a file within the repo, which gets processed at build time
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rockorager But it works “out of the box” with the only config being that it needs it’s own personal access token from GitHub
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rockorager I’ve got a lot more to do on the micropub side though
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[Murray] rockorager++ that's awesome 🙂 are you using some kind of framework as a base?
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Loqi rockorager has 1 karma over the last year
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rockorager No framework, just vanilla javascript
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rockorager For my front end i'm using 11ty
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[Murray] Cool, will definitely be interested in taking this for a spin :thumbsup:
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rockorager I'll let you know when it's a bit more polished :)
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@Lucid00 ↩️ HTTP had everything it needed to be a full-on Twitter competitor for blogs. There was RSS for feeds, Salmon for comments, Webmention for mentions, OpenID for signing in, Webfinger for "Find by email", plus ActivityPub, Activity Streams, IndieAuth, IndieAuth, etc... (twitter.com/_/status/1411037149311426569)
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@AndreJaenisch ↩️ Interact in the sense of comments? Or like/retweet? I took a stab at http://micro.blog and plan to include comments from WebMention soon~. This way encouraging others to write. Plus, Bridgy to pick up social signals. (twitter.com/_/status/1411047776817926144)
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[jacky] this looks interesting (to be used in a micropub client tbh) https://facet.ai/
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[jacky] or maybe somehow in a micropub media server?
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[tantek] I saw "face" and "AI" and was like 😬
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[tw2113_Slack_] call me crazy...but AI...and song parodies...Weird AI vs Weird AL...