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@Lohn I'm trying to indiewebify my entire site. Still a work in progress, but now I have full support to webmentions and, I hope to send whostyles. I think I made everything all right. Next step is to support receiving whostyles too.
Kicks Condor and… https://lohn.in/notes/2021/08/1629245218/ (twitter.com/_/status/1427787772392321025)
# @Lohn I’m trying to indiewebify my entire site. Still a work in progress, but now I have full support to webmentions and, I hope to send whostyles. I think I made everything all right. Next step is to support receiving whostyles too.
Kicks Condor and Sphigmus… https://lohn.in/replies/2021/08/1629246956/ (twitter.com/_/status/1427791834852515841)
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GWG Not sure why I decided to brainstorm on this right now, but https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth/issues/88
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capjamesg[d] Is there a non-manual way to request Brid.gy resend all webmentions?
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[Gabriele_Girel] Hello IndieWeb! I was wondering, is there a way to unsend a webmention?
# capjamesg[d] I think you can delete one.
# capjamesg[d] Oh, never mind. I was confused.
# capjamesg[d] If you delete a post, you should send a 410 Gone status code and resend webmentions.
# capjamesg[d] I don't know if you can send one and then unsend one.
# capjamesg[d] I don't think so.
# [Gabriele_Girel] I was wandering because if there was something wrong with a webmention (e.g., title or content), I was thinking it would be nice to unsend it, fixed the content, and resend it. Because from what I understood (at least for webmention.io) when deleting a webmention, the source URL gets blocked. Right? 😕
# [Gabriele_Girel] Would that overwrite the previous one automagically?
# [Gabriele_Girel] Awesome! Thanks sknebel++ abd capjamesg[d]++ for the clarification ❤
# capjamesg[d] Yeah.
# capjamesg[d] You can edit a webmention and resend it. The receiver should update the data they have on your webmention.
# capjamesg[d] (This is not yet something my receiver supports but I will. It's part of the spec.)
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# epilys Hallo, I'm implementing webmentions and I was wondering if anyone has written any local testing tools for it (I already know of webmention.rocks)
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Zegnat Are you testing a webmention sender or receiver? For receiver I think https://github.com/voxpelli/node-webmention-testpinger can be run completely locally to send it a bunch of mentions and see if you can parse it correctly. But is the only one I know off on the spot
# epilys Zegnat, I don't really want to install npm and run node 🤔
# epilys I am writing a python script with the standard library http.server
# epilys to host a dummy webmention endpoint
# epilys if I upload it with a license on gists.github.com someone could add it to indieweb wiki if they want to?
# epilys so that others can use it
# [Gabriele_Girel] Would love that! 👍
# epilys btw, to answer your question, I'm writing a sender/receiver. I've written a link aggregator/discussion forum and I want to send webmentions for posted links and also receive
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# epilys https://github.com/epilys/sic
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# epilys well I already wrote a server that accepts any target: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Q3Fw6QHNwx/
# epilys It's very fast to prototype stuff with python
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[KevinMarks] I have a python one here https://github.com/kevinmarks/mentiontech but it does depend on appengine utilities
# epilys nice!
# epilys I want something more minimal but that's cool :) You should write a README!
# capjamesg[d] epilys I agree. Python is super easy to use when you are building prototypes.
# capjamesg[d] By the way, anyone can contribute to the wiki!
# capjamesg[d] If you want to add a link to your Gist but don't have an account on the wiki, you can do so from here 🙂
# capjamesg[d] See the "[[Foo]] (or X" example. I didn't quote it all so that Loqi would not pick up on it 🙂
# capjamesg[d] I have a webmention endpoint written with Flask.
# capjamesg[d] But the README is sort of outdated 🙂
# epilys ah that's marvelous, I will put it myself then
# epilys thank you capjamesg[d] :)
# capjamesg[d] What is a webmention receiver?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "webmention receiver" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "webmention receiver is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# capjamesg[d] A webmention receiver is an application capable of accepting and processing Webmentions. webmention.io is an example of a webmention receiver.
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "webmention endpoint" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "webmention endpoint is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# GWG Zegnat, sknebel Would you have any thoughts on https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth/issues/88
# Zegnat Quick thought, though I am at work and can’t really give it any depth, but I feel like using grant_type is wrong in this case. You are not asking the OAuth endpoint to grant you a token at all. I see it more as querying for information you expect the token endpoint to already have. Which would be closer to something like token introspection
# capjamesg[d] sknebel A redirect might be wise. I couldn't find anything detailed on webmention receiver though
# epilys Here it is
# epilys I guess it can go here: https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer#How_to_test
# [Gabriele_Girel] @epilys++
# [Gabriele_Girel] Thanks!
# epilys :) Love to share stuff I create
# epilys (Btw if anyone is interested in https://sic.pm I can give invites)
# capjamesg[d] epilys++
# capjamesg[d] epilys That looks great!
# capjamesg[d] If you want to go a step further, you can run the discovery tests on webmention.rocks.
# capjamesg[d] But I can see this being a useful tool for the community. Definitely add it to the wiki!
# epilys To be honest I don't want to make an account just for this. The gist will stay public of course, if anyone with a wiki account would like to put it there I'd appreciate it deeply
# capjamesg[d] I will 🙂
# epilys yay :D
# epilys thank you
# capjamesg[d] Done.
# epilys oh then forgive my ignorance, I just assumed there was
# epilys hmmm gotta implement IndieAuth for sic.pm next
# [Gabriele_Girel] Random question on IndieAuth. How are third level domains handled? Are foo.github.io and bar.github.io handleded differently?
# [Gabriele_Girel] 👍 thanks GWG!
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# [Gabriele_Girel] Hello, telegraph.p3k.io just stopped working for me saying it doesn't see any links in any of my website pages and saying to check if I have an `h-entry` class (which I do). I double-checked with webmention.app and things seem to run correctly. Any idea what might be going on?
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