#dev 2021-08-19
2021-08-19 UTC
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epilys Is it a good practice to periodically (like every 2-3 months) resend webmentions to previously unsupported sites in case they set it up later?
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# epilys I think retrying on a more than a month basis is harmless, right?
# epilys probably bigger than 2-3 months
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# epilys ofc ofc just asking if there was a specific netiquette
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Zegnat Not really. I think there is also the question of different strategies depending on why it failed to deliver a mention. E.g. if a site does not advertise a webmention endpoint at all, just doing the GET request to check if they have implemented one can be done at some regular interval. If they did advertise an endpoint but the endpoint failed to respond to your POST request, maybe you want to try again a little sooner, but have some
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# epilys I'm implementing it for a link aggregator, not many sites will probably link to it
# epilys at least for now :p
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# epilys ok my python tool now seems to pass all discovery tests with webmention.rocks!
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nolith aaronpk: also the example request in https://quill.p3k.io/docs/editor is wrong, as type is an array (and quill send an array)
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GWG aaronpk: Can I ask if you have any brainstorms on https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth/issues/88? I think Zegnat may be right, but not sure where external tokens should be accessed
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# nolith It works! Yay! https://abisso.org/stream/2021/08/19/p-this-article-was-posted-with-a-href-https-quill/ I'll test the media endpoint another time. But should work
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rockorager Does anyone know of any micropub clients that publish recipes?
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capjamesg[d] "This post's Webmention endpoint has query string parameters. Your Webmention client must preserve the query string parameters, and not send them in the post body."
# capjamesg[d] How did you interpret #21?
# capjamesg[d] epilys I may have a question for you 🙂
# capjamesg[d] I don't understand this.
# capjamesg[d] I was also confused on "3.1.4 Sending Webmentions for updated posts" in the spec. How does this apply to a sender?
# capjamesg[d] What does it mean "not send them in the post body"?
# capjamesg[d] Is sending updated webmentions not something one should do manually?
# capjamesg[d] rockorager aaronpk's Teacup lets you publish food / drinks. Not sure about recipes though.
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[tantek] more general dev/inventor/creator methodology related rather than indieweb-specific, however, could very much apply to many things we build here (especially since so much of it is OSS). assume the tools you create can & will fall into the hands of those who may have different values / ethics than yourself: https://theintercept.com/2021/08/17/afghanistan-taliban-military-biometrics/
# capjamesg[d] sknebel How do you do it automatically?
# capjamesg[d] Thanks aaronpk for explaining.
# capjamesg[d] Well, I suppose I could do it from Micropub.
# capjamesg[d] I just hadn't thought about that.
# capjamesg[d] Thanks!
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# capjamesg[d] That's what I thought GWG.
# capjamesg[d] Thanks for the clarification!
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[KevinMarks] this looks like a handy service https://statically.io/docs/using-images/
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# [snarfed] "There was an interesting discussion in a working group session at the recent IETF 111 meeting over a proposal that this working group should require at least two implementations (presumably independently developed implementations) of a working group draft before the working group would consider the document ready for submission to the IESG for progression to publication as an RFC. What's going on here?"