#dev 2021-09-02

2021-09-02 UTC
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capjamesg[d] After a lot of confusion, site search is now on the IndieWeb search engine I am building: https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog/results?query=site%3A%22jamesg.blog%22+micropub
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capjamesg[d] [edit] After a lot of confusion, site search is now on the IndieWeb search engine I am building: https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog/results?query=site%3A%22jamesg.blog%22+micropub
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[snarfed] capjamesg++
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Loqi capjamesg has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (12 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] Featured snippets for most of the wiki are out now too.
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capjamesg[d] I am not running on the most powerful servers so pagerank will have to wait 😦
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[tantek] food for thought for devs / users / complexity: https://twitter.com/heydonworks/status/1432625505161908230
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@heydonworks Anyone who says “HTML isn’t a programming language” has to accept their own implication that markup syntax is for direct human consumption. They should only be allowed to read the source of websites, not the rendered pages. (twitter.com/_/status/1432625505161908230)
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superkuh Searching the source for URL strings and filenames is the only way to access a lot of sites these days.
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aaronpk i like how often he stirs up this argument on twitter 😂
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sknebel ugh, I hate this kind of argument. from both sides.
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sknebel uhm, why does twtr.io lead to a namecheap parking page?
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sknebel slash why does Loqi link it if it does that
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[snarfed] also an odd argument. I don't know that anyone thinks eg JPEG or MP3 are programming languages, but we also don't therefore think everyone should look at them in hex editors 😆
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sknebel right
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[snarfed] he's definitely trying hard though!
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[snarfed] and wow yeah he is pretty hostile https://twitter.com/heydonworks/status/1432691221558927364
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@heydonworks @RegyptianStrut How in the fuck did you get a PhD lamo *muted* (twitter.com/_/status/1432691221558927364)
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[tantek] mmmmm hexeditors++
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Loqi hexeditors has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] especially if it's online and has CSS to make it look like hex displays do in movies (Matrix, Terminator, etc.)
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aaronpk oh no i thought i removed all instances of twtr.io from Loqi
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[tantek] uh it's been in permalinks for a while?
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[tantek] (when people share twitter links)
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[tantek] so it's in the archives. the domain should work regardless (or else all those links break)
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aaronpk i rewrote the archives
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aaronpk at least the ones where it autolinks from the twitter search results
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angelo why does https://spec.indieweb.org/ link websub to a (red) editor's draft on github.io instead of the (blue) recommendation on w3.org?
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angelo same for webmention
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aaronpk probably because it hasn't been updated in a while
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[tantek] no the links are correct, they are to the "latest version" URLs
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[tantek] maybe what's at the destination needs updating?
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[tantek] i.e. to be styled more like https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/
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[tantek] we have updates to WebSub and Webmention since the RECs right?
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aaronpk they also need to be updated! the websub draft is older than the REC
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aaronpk apparently not
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[tantek] really? not even errata?
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aaronpk cause if we did, that's where they'd b
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[tantek] hmm, yeah if there's no updates since the REC then showing the REC would be better
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[tantek] from the URLs that are being used
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[tantek] that is, spec.indieweb.org shouldn't change
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[tantek] the places it's linking to for websub & webmention should be updated
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Murray[d] RE: those Heydon tweets, there have been some pretty (imo) stupid arguments in his replies for the last few days about the topic, likely fueled the current rant 😄
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