#dev 2021-09-09
2021-09-09 UTC
# npd[m] right, everything is imperfect! but it's still useful to show what is easy or what has easy paths to improvement
# npd[m] I guess I was thinking that what [KevinMarks] demonstrated in checking bidirectional links showed pretty promising applicability: http://www.kevinmarks.com/distributed-verify.html
# npd[m] although it's interesting if there was adoption of rel-me by "that Flickr, Twitter, Google+, Github, Huffduffer and GnuSocial all support rel="me" links natively" and that there's been a decrease since
# [KevinMarks] Also mastodon adopting bidirectional verification is good
# [KevinMarks] And huffduffer.com
# npd[m] did Flickr, Twitter and Facebook all used to have rel-me links and then remove the attributes?
# [KevinMarks] They did, you can see them in archive.org
# [KevinMarks] Publicly calling twitter to put them back is worth it. They were on the intent pages until the most recent redesign
# npd[m] I also want to encourage Bluesky folks to look for use of existing workable technologies. I don't know yet what they'll be open to, but I thought that was a goal of the engagement
# @sampullara @TaylorLorenz @joshelman The decentralized version that @kevinmarks mentioned is the right way to do it and it isn't owned by the platforms. (twitter.com/_/status/1143654063281594368)
# [KevinMarks] Well done Monica
# npd[m] > Have an answer in something that already exists? Feel free to use it, but describe how it works, the tradeoffs, and how it can be improved. Implement your solutions as much as possible.
# npd[m] I think there's openness to learning about and using existing protocols there
# npd[m] * >
# npd[m] Have an answer in something that already exists? Feel free to use it, but describe how it works, the tradeoffs, and how it can be improved. Implement your solutions as much as possible.
# npd[m] I think there's openness to learning about and using existing protocols there
# npd[m] * > Have an answer in something that already exists? Feel free to use it, but describe how it works, the tradeoffs, and how it can be improved. Implement your solutions as much as possible.
# npd[m] I think there's openness to learning about and using existing protocols there
# npd[m] oh, sorry! I made edits in the Matrix interface to try to distinguish which part of the message was a quote/blockquote. but of course I should probably have guessed that editing messages would end up as re-sending them over bridges
# npd[m] the matrix puns are a lovely side effect
# [KevinMarks] At one point Brad changed his fb profile pic to a QR code to get a publicly visible url there. I think he made Social Graph API crawl that too
# [KevinMarks] There's a Metaverse snow crash angle there
# npd[m] [KevinMarks]: do you have the code for the rel-me verification check extension somewhere? the github link from your blog post is broken
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# [KevinMarks] I'll fix the link
# [KevinMarks] Voxpelli improved it a lot, mine was hackier
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# capjamesg[d] aaronpk I thought I'd written in meta description logic for og:descriptions. There was a small bug though. I'll reindex your site so your meta descriptions will be fixed. I noticed you only had og:description tags on some posts and not regular description meta tags.
# capjamesg[d] And this one just has a blank description: https://aaronparecki.com/2018/06/30/11/your-first-webmention
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# capjamesg[d] I am a bit confused on how to use IndieAuth with an API key. How do I verify the access token someone has given me is in fact real / valid?
# capjamesg[d] I'm using indieauth.com for verification right now.
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# capjamesg[d] Poor choice of words.
# capjamesg[d] And I found an answer in the spec in looking for the right word.
# aaronpk this post should help too https://aaronparecki.com/2021/04/13/26/indieauth
# capjamesg[d] I meant access_token not API key π
# capjamesg[d] Oh, thanks!
# capjamesg[d] I'll take a look.
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# [jgmac1106] okay my Known blog is borked beyond repair, what do folks think my best migration path, if any is possible?
# [jgmac1106] not crazy, you may have to get me back as a WP migration is easiest, been using micro.blog I dig that, if I could just get the html containing the h* I would use my personal site, I have thousands and thousands of posts I am sure
# [jgmac1106] micro.blog just works, if I go back to WP I need to host somewhere else than reclaim for webmentions to fully function, I really like Known...but I can't keep up and now can't update
# [jgmac1106] thx brother
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# capjamesg[d] Microsub looks very promising!
# capjamesg[d] aaronpk Monocle looks great!
# capjamesg[d] Anyone using Microsub actively? Iβll probably have questions π
# capjamesg[d] I found the star a bit confusing.
# capjamesg[d] I then realized it was to like a post.
# capjamesg[d] I sort of wish the star was a heart.
# capjamesg[d] But aside from that itβs an amazing client!
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "stream.IndieWeb.org" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "stream.IndieWeb.org is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# capjamesg[d] What is stream.IndieWeb.org?
# [jeremycherfas] !tell [jgmac1106] do you still have your Known database uncorrupted? If so, you may be able to create a completely new install of Known and then swap out the databases. I had to do that once when I messed up an update.
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