#dev 2021-09-13

2021-09-13 UTC
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@MeritzPress Where a flower blooms tonight, Devout and purple, With a rift for a hollow power, That shivers it springs from a root - from Pluck At The Offering, Barbarity. Free excerpts. Order at http://amzn.to/2CF8fts or kindle http://amzn.to/2CV3tw4 #poem #poet #writer #indieauth (twitter.com/_/status/1437235339433754631)
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GWG How is that indieauth?
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aaronpk apparently "auth" is short for "author"
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aaronpk i feel like maybe you can just use the extra 2 characters but okay
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GWG I've never heard auth is short for author.
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aaronpk i hadn't either until these tweets
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GWG Maybe we're just not with it.
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bergeron Hello
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bergeron I'm new around here, just wrapping my head around indieweb auth (orization, not to be confused with or)
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bergeron and webmentions, etc.
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aaronpk lol
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aaronpk oh i just realized i wrote about indieauth in a book so does that mean i count as 2x indieauth?
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aaronpk the book was self published too
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bergeron lol
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bergeron I don't think I auth'ed into here using my site's rel="me" element
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bergeron I have a u-photo, but it doesn't appear in this chat
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bergeron I think it may be because I used a relative path, not a canonical one
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bergeron (absolute, whateveR)
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aaronpk there's a few steps to all the parts to showing up in the wiki and chat logs and stuff ,but it should be documented here https://indieweb.org/wikifying#How_to_Join_the_IndieWeb_Wiki
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bergeron i'm checking it out now
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bergeron my site is: https://chrisbergeron.com
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bergeron thanks, that link helped
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bergeron test
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bergeron Ok, I've created myself. Thanks for the link.
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bergeron aha, there I am. :D
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bergeron This is really exicing stuff - kudos to the devs
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bergeron s/exicing/exciting/
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capjamesg[d] [snarfed] aaronpk It's maybe not worth me trying šŸ™‚
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@hilmanski Catatan tentang Webmention https://jurnal.dev/webmention/ (twitter.com/_/status/1437390495118811136)
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sknebel re search engines: https://jpreston.xyz/custom-search-engine.html (via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28509997)
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capjamesg[d] I now understand digital gardens.
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capjamesg[d] !tell snarfed 200k documents indexed on IndieWeb search now! šŸŽ‰
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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capjamesg[d] sknebel++ for sharing that article.
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Loqi sknebel has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (29 in all channels)
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sknebel what is searx?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "searx" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "searx is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg[d] https://searx.me/
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capjamesg[d] Does anyone have any good readings on search rankings from a developer (not SEO, etc.) perspective? I'd love to chip away at relevance for IndieWeb Search this weekend.
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[snarfed] capjamesg it's an entire generations-old academic research field šŸ˜ maybe start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_retrieval ?
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Loqi [snarfed]: capjamesg[d] left you a message 51 minutes ago: 200k documents indexed on IndieWeb search now! šŸŽ‰
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[snarfed] !tell jamietanna just fyi bridgy is still seeing >1500 publish re-attempts a day from your site for posts that were already published. totally ok, not hurting it at all, just checking in! šŸ˜
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[snarfed] anyone know if there are any single character TLDs? i think no, right?
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[snarfed] yup, all TLDs are at least two chars. https://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
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[KevinMarks] [capjamesg] Tim Bray wrote a good into series of posts on search https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2004/11/26/SearchSort
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capjamesg[d] Thank you [KevinMarks]. I'll add that to my reading list.
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capjamesg[d] Loved it!
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capjamesg[d] Also saw this: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/06/07/Microformats
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capjamesg[d] šŸ˜„
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GWG jamietanna: Any tips on refresh token support? Want to implement it next.
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capjamesg[d] snarfed I am working on adding support for featured snippets on the search engine. I had this on my blog search engine but the code wasn't entirely portable.
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capjamesg[d] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577430886350869/887049965363417128/Screenshot_from_2021-09-13_19-59-43.png
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capjamesg[d] Hope you can see this:
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[snarfed] I saw the post! nice!
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capjamesg[d] Thanks šŸ˜Š
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capjamesg[d] Now I need to think about what to do with likes: keep or no index?
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capjamesg[d] But Iā€™m not there yet actually. I just noticed something that might solve the problem I have.
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angelo got my python indieauth server talking PKCE to the wiki a couple weeks back.. just got my typescript webextension talking PKCE to my server..
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angelo https://github.com/angelogladding/webext-indieauth
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Loqi [angelogladding] webext-indieauth: WebExtension support for IndieAuth sign-in
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angelo still getting the hang of the JS ecosystem.. there's a CommonJS output in the release: https://github.com/angelogladding/webext-indieauth/releases/tag/0.0.7
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angelo GWG i'm in for IA session 2 and for working on refresh tokens next.. can you link me to the introspection issue/code we were talking about at HWC?
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angelo aaronpk what would be the first step toward SSH via device grant type?
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aaronpk an OAuth PAM module
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aaronpk https://developer.okta.com/blog/2021/08/20/cli-ssh-oauth-device-grant
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GWG angelo: Whether or now auth is needed?
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GWG not
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angelo aaronpk do you anticipate the C code needing changes?
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aaronpk I am not sure, I haven't dug into that enough
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aaronpk looks like yes, because that code expects an OpenID Connect ID Token
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aaronpk the good news is it means the code gets simpler for indieauth
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angelo gwg not sure what you mean?
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GWG angelo: The PR got merged, someone reviewed
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GWG But we still have issues on the spec merges
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angelo aaronpk the code certainly isn't long but i feel it might be difficult to debug.. considering i don't have a working openid connect flow to test with, would it make sense to implement the device grant type flow in another context first?
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aaronpk you could do it the other way around, use an existing OIDC server to get that part working first (okta/auth0 are free to try)
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GWG I've always wanted to do the device grant, but not worth it till there's a use for it
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[schmarty] GWG: https://martymcgui.re/2019/03/29/153239/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] Loving the Adafruit PyPortal as an IndieWeb-powered photo device. Code to come! https://res.cloudinary.com/schmarty/image/fetch/w_960,c_fill/https://media.martymcgui.re/d2/09/5e/31/f561203f176d0f7dbe9b6a80f6603d29d4d1cd57904367fd50cdf724.jpg
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[schmarty] i've got an indieauth device grant proxy at https://glitch.com/edit/#!/veil-mirror
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aaronpk oh i forgot about that thing! I want an excuse to make that
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aaronpk and now that i have a 3d printer i can also make a case for it
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[schmarty] ooh yeah
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[schmarty] woah somehow github signin to glitch.com isn't working for me šŸ¤”
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[schmarty] uhhh somehow just logging into glitch.com is plain not working for me. gonna back away slowly for now.
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[KevinMarks] [capjamesg] likes could be a relevance signal
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angelo thanks aaronpk++ i'll give that a shot.. and https://www.oauth.com/playground/device-code.html just taught me the device flow in under 60 seconds.. nice
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GWG aaronpk: I would excuse along with you
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angelo aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 37 karma in this channel over the last year (114 in all channels)
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angelo did you use some kind of device grant type for your photo device schmarty? is there a github repo tied to that glitch?
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[schmarty] angelo: the glitch app I linked is a device grant proxy to IndieAuth. It passes through scopes etc to the requesting client. all glitch apps do have a git repo but I forget how to access it directly. The glitch project has the whole source!
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angelo i'm getting an error trying to load the glitch: "There was an error starting the editor. Maybe try to reload?"
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angelo then it redirects me to the homepage
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