#dev 2021-12-08
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gRegor Not on https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2021-12-08 either. Is there an issue with Slack posts with images and the bridgy?
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# gRegor !tell omz13 I was trying out https://toolbox.imoxia.com/#authmetadisco and got an error when it was trying to redeem the authorization code. Looks like it didn't send `grant_type`
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[Sean] [snarfed] about the port numbers .. and URL v domain
# [Sean] [snarfed] Seems like the bottom line is : I gotta do it by `u-syndication`. So it seems like the steps are:
# [Sean] 1. generate the page
# [Sean] 2. post the tweet via curl
# [Sean] 3. grab the url of the tweet
# [Sean] 4. generate the page again - including the url in `u-syndication` tag
# [snarfed] (background for the channel, https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/1094 )
# [Sean] [snarfed] I am *not* trying to use `u-syndication` as another way to publish with a shortlink. Only trying to use ``u-syndication` so the bankfeed will work
# [Sean] already putting my shortlink into the text of the tweet (automated by some jinga code )
# [Sean] if I put `http://usha.red` as the domain in the twitter profile
# [Sean] it probably would work - becasue that redirects to xxxxx:8819
# [Sean] but then I cannot use `usha.red` for anything else
# [snarfed] after you add or change URLs in your Twitter profile, you need to re-auth with Bridgy so it picks up those changes: https://brid.gy/about#add-remove-url
# [snarfed] you can see the domain(s) Bridgy has for you on your user page, https://brid.gy/twitter/GrokRaving
# [Sean] [snarfed] yes - I already got all that - when I was changing ( like 10 times ) the URL in the twitter profile a few days ago... that led to the " `auth` is in a funny state" comment that you made on Github
# [Sean] [snarfed] and what about the main page "a "*top-level* `h-entry`" in the home page of my blog "
# [Sean] top level ? means what ? pointing to the home page ?
# [Sean] the home page already has `
# [Sean] ```<a class="h-card" rel="me" href="
{{ SITEURL }}/"></a>```# [Sean] `
# [snarfed] re https://brid.gy/about#link ? top level just in terms of mf2. an h-entry for each post, optionally inside an h-entry
# [Sean] u mean the home page of the blog must have a link to *every single tweet* for which a backfeed is required ?
# [Sean] huh ? you wrote "it already does " ?? really ? I think it only has an `h-card`
# [Sean] so in `grok ... asia` page I will need a `<link rel=feed` that points to a page that has a `h-entry` for *every single post (to blog) that is a tweet* for which a backfeed is required ? IS that right ? Because it is possible that list will be very long - so don't want it in the home page. I just do not get that you think it is already there 🤷♂️
# [Sean] so the steps would be :
# [Sean] So it seems like the steps are:
# [Sean] 1. generate the page
# [Sean] 2. post the tweet via curl
# [Sean] 4. generate the page again - including the url in `u-syndication` tag
# [Sean] 3. grab the url of the tweet
# [Sean] 5. re-generate the page with containing ~all~ the new `h-entry` links
# [Sean] ah ok - sorry I missed that
# [Sean] • a top-level h-feed with h-entrys
# [Sean] • top-level h-entrys
# [Sean] • a `<link rel="feed" href="...">` pointing to another page with top-level h-feed or h-entrys
# [Sean] OR
# [Sean] so that is not needed ?? right ... am asking becasuse I do not have any of those 3
# [Sean] yes - that is good point - my mistake
# [Sean] 1. generate the page containing the tweet , and update the page containing ( recent only ) `h-entry` tags that `href` to the tweet page.
# [Sean] 2. post the tweet via curl
# [Sean] 3. grab the url of the tweet
# [Sean] 4. generate the tweet page again - including the url in `u-syndication` tag
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# [Sean] [snarfed] thank you 🙏 so much for all your help ! We really really appreciate ❤ it here ! 😁
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# samwilson I've just been setting up Matomo for stats; not sure why I persisted with AWStats for so long!
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jamietanna[m] gRegor sorry yes I meant to say I can see PKCE in use!
# jamietanna[m] Yay for another Matomo user ☺
# samwilson jamietanna: it seems pretty cool so far
# jamietanna[m] I really like it, and it's served me well for probably a decade 😁
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petermolnar what is WOEID?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WOEID" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "WOEID is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# petermolnar is anyone aware of a service that still functions and gives a list of recommended tags/hashtags for a geo location?
# petermolnar the relevant flickr one seems to be very limited, because it uses "woeid" for this lookup, and, for example, for Lanzarote, flickr doesn't return a place_id or a woeid at all
# petermolnar so I can't make flickr look "tags for place" up because I can't get the ID it wants
# samwilson Maybe Wikidata would be suitable? It's possible to query by lat/long and get a list of names of things. e.g.: https://w.wiki/4XBX
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# petermolnar aaronpk: I realized that because I'm not hand-tagging photos, no tags are present on flickr any more - I wasn't following the news, but auto machine tagging is gone from flickr, so their discover-ability had significantly gone down
# petermolnar I'm still not too impressed by google vision tags; the ones above 80% certainty are ok, but not great
# petermolnar so I started checking if there is some sort of lookup for most used hashtags for location
# petermolnar and so far, nothing
# petermolnar aaronpk: I'm pretty sure instagram has photo locations and could return "list of most common hastags" for lat,lon
# petermolnar it just doesn't of course, because it's fb
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[KevinMarks] It used to have that api when I built pestagram
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# [Paul_Walk] Slightly random question about webmention and comments:
# [Paul_Walk] I am building out my CMS and have implemented a quick and dirty comment processor.
# [Paul_Walk] I am now turning my attention to Webmention, and it occurs to me that once I have that implemented I could swap out my separate comment processor, and use Webmention instead. Effectively, someone entering a comment into a comment form on my website, would invoke a Webmention on that page from the page itself - a kind of self-referential Webmention.
# [Paul_Walk] Technically this could work, but it feels a little odd... Is this a pattern used by anyone else?
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# [Paul_Walk] I hadn't planned to let anyone edit their comment. I'm tending towards the view that it's more in the spirit of things to just encourage people to comment on their own sites and not support direct comments on my site.
# [Paul_Walk] But it's an interesting thought experiment I think 🙂
# petermolnar [KevinMarks]: thank you for confirming it's not my memory playing tricks, so this used to exist!
# petermolnar do you remember what it was called?
# [KevinMarks] You could also use commentpara.de for the webmention comments
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[schmarty] capjamesg: there's a command line tool as part of the Ekster Microsub client/server. So there is demand for such conversions! https://p83.nl/posts/957
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aaronpk I guess it's sorta this except for the Go client at the bottom https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth#IndieAuth_Clients
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# [Sean] https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/archives/C1PA11USK/p1638941086382300 Could it be that Bridgy is "_remembering the links it has seen_" from *before* the `u-syndication` was added ? I guess that was a few minutes, maybe even 5-10 mins ?
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@S0_And_S0 ↩️ Sign-in via wallet is very similar to PGP signature based authentication, here's one implementation example;
https://indieauth.com/pgp
Some blockchain solutions bring to this problem space; client friendly browser plugins bindings, and sometimes ownership verification of token(s) (twitter.com/_/status/1468623128200765440)
# Loqi location-of is a response to post that indicates location information for the post https://indieweb.org/location_tag
# petermolnar nope
# petermolnar example: I'd like to know what tags/hashtags are used on posts that have a location attached and were made in the 300m radius of the Eiffel Tower
# petermolnar but by location LAT;LON and not by some arcane ID for the "Eiffel Tower"
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# [Joe_Crawford] _Aside:_ I recently found out Apple Photos doesn’t natively allow “Smart Albums” (collections based on metadata) based on location data. The workaround is to select the photos from the map view and add a text metadata field with the location. Which of course won’t apply to new photos from the location. The whole point of a smart folder is for it to be passive. I was disappointed.
# [Joe_Crawford] cite: https://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/use-smart-albums-in-apple-photos-to-organize-your-photos/ - section: _Smart albums for your vacations_
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[jacky] I was looking for some other messages of handling signatures of messages outside of PGP and came across this https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/ssh_signatures
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# [jacky] I'm tempted to have a 'service' that can do this and produce a temporary page (it'd live for like 10 minutes) akin to how https://brid.gy/twitter/jackyalcine is
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# petermolnar [tantek]: yes
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capjamesg[d] [snarfed] have you used Read The Docs?
# capjamesg[d] I tried to get the doc string generator going but my code is not populating in the docs.
# capjamesg[d] [tantek] I have made the README a public archive and uploaded the code and docs into a new one. https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-utils
# capjamesg[d] I have some cleaning to do but I’m excited.
# [snarfed] capjamesg yup I do use it. https://granary.readthedocs.io/ , https://oauth-dropins.readthedocs.io/ , https://bridgy.readthedocs.io/
# capjamesg[d] One question for everyone using Python: does anyone have a need for RSS / JSON Feed / h-feed to jf2 conversion?
# [Joe_Crawford] I did create a fork of the WordPress HashTags plugin by [pfefferle] for my own peculiar uses. Gutted the original, all I really wanted was to pick up hashtags in the title and body in wordpress at edit time. Thanks to [chrisaldrich] for mentioning it! It’s been an itch I’ve been meaning to scratch since I started using IFTTT to import Instagram posts. Uh, years ago. https://github.com/artlung/wordpress-hashtags
# [Joe_Crawford] chrisaldrich++
# [snarfed] capjamesg I'd happily accept a granary PR! https://github.com/snarfed/granary/issues/109
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# capjamesg[d] Oh, interesting.
# capjamesg[d] I have used mf2util.
# capjamesg[d] Re: implementation. I need to figure out what I’d do with the code. It needs cleaned up a bit. I’ll see!
# capjamesg[d] I think I know the source of the read the docs issue I’m facing. I should hopefully have functional documentation tomorrow!
# capjamesg[d] [snarfed] this may interest you:
# capjamesg[d] “capjamesg: [chrisaldrich] left you a message on 2021-09-07 at 11:10pm UTC: you're looking for a fun micropub related server project outside of just for your own site, I've always thought it would be fun to build a brid.gy like micropub service (perhaps using Granary as a translation layer) that would take a feed input (RSS, Atom, h-feed, JSON feed, etc..) from silos and create a micropub post to anyone's site as a means of universal ..
# capjamesg[d] (It’s from a Loqi reminder a few days ago.)
# [snarfed] I saw! I think it's basically https://snarfed.org/2015-01-22_pesos-for-bridgy-publish ?
# [snarfed] we've bounced around similar ideas over the years in various ways, here's one for backfeed: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/420
# capjamesg[d] Good links! Ironically, I’ll post a like via Micropub on my website to those links tomorrow 🙂
# capjamesg[d] It’s not a use case for me right now but is interesting to think about.
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