#dev 2021-12-26
2021-12-26 UTC
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GWG How is a page this long classified as a stub? https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer
# GWG And https://indieweb.org/webmention-spec seems a bit dated as well.
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# GWG Why do /Webmention and /Webmention-developer both have an implementations/examples section? Isn't that duplicative?
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petermolnar probably. I'd say go ahead, clean it up
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# petermolnar !tell capjamesg[d] did you see https://yacy.net/ when you started to work on your search stuff?
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capjamesg[d] I did but I didn’t look into it that much.
# capjamesg[d] Is there anything in particular that interests you petermolnar?
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# petermolnar just curious :)
# capjamesg[d] I love the idea of a decentralized search engine.
# capjamesg[d] Although I think what interests me most is decoupling ranking with indexing and search results representation.
# capjamesg[d] Ranking is the hardest one.
# capjamesg[d] I haven’t learned how to build reverse indexes that are fast yet.
# capjamesg[d] I got stuck the last time so took a break.
# capjamesg[d] I have an inverted index but I could not figure out how to add boosts to make a ranking algorithm. Doing so does however greatly interest me.
# capjamesg[d] The trouble with elasticsearch is that it is very abstract. That’s good for most use cases but I want to know how everything key works.
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# petermolnar ES is probably the heaviest thing you can throw at this problem
# petermolnar doesn't necessarily the best though
# petermolnar this emerged recently: https://github.com/prabhatsharma/zinc
# petermolnar the p2p search idea is quite an interesting one. What do you (this channel) think of a p2p search engine system where each domain brings their own index of their own content?
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# capjamesg[d] petermolnar I thought about this from the perspective of allowing individual sites to send indexes of their own content to a centralized server.
# capjamesg[d] But that would not be too scalable due to demands on resources.
# capjamesg[d] p2p is interesting, can you explain more about what you have in mind? I don’t have a good understanding of p2p network architectures
# petermolnar neither do I, I just came across yacy, and haven't started looking to be honest.
# capjamesg[d] Has anyone thought about auth for static sites?
# capjamesg[d] What is htaccess?
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Loqi htaccess is the file used for configuring particular sites on apache (as opposed to httpd.conf which is global) https://indieweb.org/htaccess
# capjamesg[d] Maybe there could be a third service that verifies you with indieauth and gives you a password to a page / set of pages.
# capjamesg[d] Then you could revoke that password at any time so that users access would be revoked.
# capjamesg[d] This is contingent upon htaccess allowing multiple passwords for a file. That might not be possible.
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Zegnat I always feel like "auth for static site" is a bit hard to define. When do you consider something no longer static? I think https://www.authelia.com/ integrates with nginx, so you can have your server redirect the user to a separately hosted auth provider. But then that might actually be more stuff for you to host than having a static site that also supports PHP includes for a login
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PK[d] capjamesg[d]: Indexes as in the URLs on that site?
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# capjamesg[d] PK[d] all of the content on the web page.
# PK[d] Hmm.. Oh yes that’s right..
# PK[d] I wonder if it’d be easier to create an index of marked up websites
# capjamesg[d] Thank you 🙂
# capjamesg[d] Truthfully I haven’t worked on it for a little bit as I have been doing stuff with my own site. My dream is to run the search index too rather than using elastic search.
# capjamesg[d] Every page is a h-feed and comes with a JSON / jf2 feed too.
# capjamesg[d] No rss just yet as I haven’t modeled system resource usage for that.
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[jacky] also https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog/about seems to use white text when in dark mode
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