#dev 2021-12-25
2021-12-25 UTC
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capjamesg[d] Is there a best practice for using a background image on a blog that does not take too long to load? I assume using a format like webp might be useful.
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petermolnar webp is overrated
# petermolnar re longevity from meta: I've been thinking to somehow auto-switch to archive.org urls instead of normal links on my site after some years have passed. Trouble is, if I were to go out and check a url it could either be an error (so switch to archive.org) or a live link, but how do I verify if it's still the same content?
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KartikPrabhu one could save a small hash of the original content and compare? but that might fail for minor reasons like the CSS was updated or something
# petermolnar that can fail for many reasons
# petermolnar even if I were to save a quote with each url, the text could change if someone revisits it
# petermolnar but could still be the same article, except updated
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[schmarty] manualuntilithurts++
# petermolnar even the thought of visiting multiple thousands of urls hurts :)
# [schmarty] Even errors are not a perfect signal since a site can have temporary outages
# petermolnar [tantek]: same-ish. Updated OK. Squat domain, no.
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "squat domain" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "squat domain is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi zombie is in the context of the web a website that had died (site-deaths), perhaps due to domain registration neglect, and has been brought back by some other looking sorta like it did before, but oddly broken, often with spam pages/links added, and eats a lot of CPU likely due to abusive scripts https://indieweb.org/zombie
# petermolnar btw, a thought: I now know of quite a photographers, who had their domains and websites die off a long time ago, and the only place their work is still up is flickr.
# petermolnar I know one particular case where the reason he hadn't demolished his flickr is because he locked himself out: the email with the account is a former work email address of his. Thing is, I'm quite glad for this, given I love his work, and I'm quite a bit angry for stopping AND letting his sites rot.
# petermolnar At this point in time, there are many flickr accounts that lived significantly longer, than their counterpart websites, which makes me think that if a large amount of the netizens will eventually neglect their online content, silos might keep their work alive longer, than domains.
# petermolnar oh. I wanted this in -chat
# petermolnar although it's on topic
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[davidmead] !tell aaronpk I tried to post a webmention to https://aaronparecki.com/2018/06/30/11/your-first-webmention yesterday but it still hasn’t show up in the comments. My link seems good according to https://indiewebify.me & https://webmention.app. Not sure if I’m missing something
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# [davidmead] Great! Must’ve scrolled past it a couple of times now aaronpk. Saw the bottom entry was 2021 and thought mine would come after that 🙂
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gRegor I'm thinking the `p-name` should be removed from this how-to, similar to how on /note posts we no longer recommend p-name. Sound correct? https://indieweb.org/reply#Post_a_reply
# gRegor I (temporarily) changed visibility to a string on IBC when someone had an issue, but I'm probably going to change it back: https://indiebookclub.biz/documentation
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Zegnat https://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-json#properties is not an authorative spec (only the parser spec is) but should describe mf2 JSON correctly and says "Even when only one value is given, it will be inside an array."
# Zegnat IMO this is a weakness of the Micropub spec saying that it uses "the parsed Microformats 2 JSON format", but there is no formal definition of what that is. The closest is probably my mf2 json spec above and the matching JSON schema. But that is still waiting on an actual validation service before going anywhere.
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aaronpk the spec is literally how to build a JSON object from the microformats HTML https://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#algorithm
# petermolnar oh, that's glorious: href.li (wordpress.com & tumblr outgoing link body snatcher) doesn't do actual redirect, it's http-equiv="Refresh" and JS based.
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