[snarfed][tantek] interesting quirk of your Twitter POSSE code, looks like it puts just an \r carriage return between the content and the PSL, no \n newline. that renders as a new line ok on the web, but not in the mobile apps
Loqi[manton] @pimoore @cdevroe @canion I can't think of a way to do it with just Markdown. Micro.blog could send Webmentions for everything, but I don't think all links really count as "replies"... In the future, we may want a "new reply post" sort of UI.
[snarfed]([manton] obviously we encourage sending wms to all links, and letting recipients filter and handle based on post type, but I expect you already knew that and have a good reason 😁)
Loqi[Chris Aldrich] sub·men·tion (noun informal): 1. A post about someone or something on a personal website where one neglects (accidentally or on purpose) to either send a webmention and/or syndicate a copy out to an appropriate social silo. 2. Such a post which exp...
[chrisaldrich]For posting replies on my own site and (manually) sending specifically to a Micro.blog conversation thread , I'll often put the link back to my post so that I can force further commentary to send webmentions in cases where it doesn't happen automatically. Has anyone managed better methods for owning replies to micro.blog? (It's particularly hard to get around included reply contexts which doesn't happen automatically.)
[manton]My thinking behind the Webmention sending is that replies should have some kind of intent that they are actually replies. Not all links to a web page are replies. If I just link to a New York Times article, is it really a reply to that article?
[manton]So when you click “reply” in Micro.blog, it of course adds u-in-reply-to, but for normal links you need to do that yourself. Micro.blog will check every page for whether it has u-in-reply-to, and if it does it will handle the Webmention discovery/sending automatically.
aaronpki have an "other responses" section on my posts for things that are not replies. i've been considering not displaying those because they can get to be pretty large sections on some of my more popular blog posts. i'd still want to see the webmention notification internally though
[snarfed]also there are lots of non-reply link types that are still more specific than just "mention": likes, reposts, bookmarks, read/watch, event RSVPs, etc. I expect m.b doesn't support most of those now, but just FYI
[manton]I looked a little on the wiki and spec for whether there’s an official guideline for “always send Webmentions for all links” and didn’t find one. Might be good to document if that’s best practice.
[manton]Yeah, looks like the spec assumes you already want to send a Webmention, so doesn’t really cover when you should. It does seem like Micro.blog’s behavior is probably too limited, though.
petermolnarhad anyone ever tried 4/5G SIMs that supposedly give a static public IPv4 address? Searching the question listed a few suppliers, none of them seems to be dealing with ordinary people.
[tantek][manton] were you able to use the Webmention test suite with micro.blog, and did that have anything that implied any "send webmentions for all links" tests?
[snarfed][tantek] re \r in tweets, aaronpk may have a point here. A tweet's canonical text content is plain text, not HTML. Twitter than happens to render that with HTML + CSS on the web, but it also renders it separately in mobile apps, probably not using HTML at all. that's the part that's breaking in your POSSEd tweets
capjamesg[d]Would Loqi accept a definition for that? Not that it is necessarily relevant to the IndieWeb community but just because it has a backslash in it haha.
[fluffy]okay so portaling over the #indieweb conversation about keypairs and mastodon and so on: does mastodon actually apply PGP encryption stuff to protected posts, then?
[fluffy]My understanding (probably incorrect) was that mastodon only used the keypair to sign messages to ensure that someone doesn’t start to spam on an existing account if the domain gets hijacked
[snarfed]from https://w3c.github.io/activitypub/#authorization : "ActivityPub uses authentication for two purposes; first, to authenticate clients to servers, and secondly in federated implementations to authenticate servers to each other. Unfortunately at the time of standardization, there are no strongly agreed upon mechanisms for authentication. Some possible directions for authentication are laid out in the Social Web Community Group
[tantek]federation is very much a jargon term in the indieweb or even "web" context. ask any "non-technical" person or even most technical folks what is federation and good luck getting an answer that isn't something to do with Star Trek
[snarfed]go easy on yourself! totally ok to have a long list of things you want to build, and work through it slowly. we all do, especially here. I actually think it's good; if you ever don't have that list, it's time to retire and watch TV and play shuffleboard all day
[chrisaldrich] zerojames[d] remind me what Tom Critchlow's feed thing is? I'm pretty sure I've seen it but I'm not finding it in my notes.
zerojames[d] [chrisaldrich] Here you go: https://tomcritchlow.com/feeds/
@t If I post notes to my site instead of Twitter, who will see them?
It’s not either or, it’s yes and.
Post to your Own Site, and Syndicate Elsewhere (to Twitter etc.) https://indieweb.org/POSSE
POSSE directly or use a service like https://brid.gy
https://tantek.com/t5Gc1 (twitter.com/_/status/1479012990024183810)
petermolnar I decided to try out the "always free" tier of oracle cloud
capjamesg[d] Is it worth mentioning the IndieWeb community in that thread? ^
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "\r" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "\r is ____", a sentence describing the term)
@adrianmouat Currently trying to get webmentions (https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/) working on my site... https://adrianmouat.com/posts/enabling-web-mentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/1479200119358730243)
@RubygemsN indieweb-endpoints (7.0.0): Discover a URL’s IndieAuth, Micropub, Microsub, and Webmention endpoints. https://rubygems.org/gems/indieweb-endpoints (twitter.com/_/status/1479211214324789251)