#dev 2022-02-11

2022-02-11 UTC
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[snarfed] my brain is often ready for programming-for-fun, but it's rarely ready for maintaining-for-fun. and maintenance is 80-90% of the effort, initial building is only the first 10-20%.
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aaronpk true true
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jacky designing comments is not the easiest thing to do
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jacky what are comments
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Loqi Comments are displayed in the context of an original post, and may be a mix of syndicated reply posts from other sites received via Webmention, as well as locally created comments https://indieweb.org/comments
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jacky needs some inspo
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@franckpaul [OT] Webmention https://open-time.net/post/2022/02/11/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1492030696751308818)
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capjamesg[d] Does anyone want to compete to see who can make the most relevant IndieWeb Search results 😉
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capjamesg[d] One of the biggest issues I have run into is making results relevant. They are okay for a lot of queries right now but could do better in many instances.
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capjamesg[d] If anyone's up for it, you can craft your own idea for a ranking algorithm and I can run it live. The form is an Elasticsearch query so some knowledge of that would be helpful (but a mathematical representation would work too!).
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capjamesg[d] Here is the "master" ranking algorithm: https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-search/blob/main/elasticsearch_server/queries.py#L1
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capjamesg[d] I'll share more links if anyone's up for it.
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capjamesg[d] edgeduchess[d] That query finds all records in Elasticsearch that match a searcher's term (i.e. "microformats2 parser"). It searches all specified "fields" like h1, h2, etc (example in the date ordered function below). Then, the Elasticsearch relevance score is taken and the logarithm of (1 + all incoming links on a page * 5) is added to the score. This allows for weighting searches depending on how many people link to the documents being
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@KappaTalks ↩️ The plugin don't handle sending webmentions. During building time for Pelican, the plugin fetches webmentions from http://webmention.io and embed it into the generated HTML (twitter.com/_/status/1492142863383072773)
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jacky what are stickers
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Loqi stickers are adhesive labels usually with graphics to show an affiliation (like the IndieWeb sticker), a technology (like microformats), or accomplishment, often placed on the backs of laptop screens, and a form of swag https://indieweb.org/stickers
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jacky hm I want stickers the technology
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jacky ah gotta use /sticker
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jacky hm "stickers are [just] /photo_reply", I was wondering that but wasn't sure
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jacky I guess it's a 'branded' term of saying that
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jacky like how reacji is "emoji reply"
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jacky but it's more on the person looking at it tho to notice that - (like not all photo replys are /sticker _but_ all /sticker are photo replies)
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jacky is wondering how to mark up stickers on his site
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capjamesg[d] sknebel thanks again for the Hetzner recommendation.
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capjamesg[d] I rebuilt the search engine link graph today and also ran a feed crawl.
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capjamesg[d] I previously couldn’t do either of those things due to the size of the index on the old server.
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capjamesg[d] Now I can get back to doing some things with search.
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capjamesg[d] I am refactoring the code base to make it much easier to read. I also want to document it a bit more.
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sknebel jacky: markup design-wise? or do you want to "somehow" treat them differently semantically?
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jacky I _think_ I want to treat them differently semantically so readers can be aware of them but I have yet to find a reason to justify that being any different than a reader having some sort of alternative place to get photos for a reply
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jacky like truthfully, one could implement stickers by adding a media endpoint that provides them as a service
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jacky kinda like [schmarty]'s GIF endpoint
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jacky (I'm thinking from both publishing and consuming so I think that's why it's a bit tricky)
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sknebel I guess publishing-wise there is some argument towards linking them from a central place vs uploading it each time? because you might post one everal times? but thats not something a consumer really cares about the difference, link to image is link to image for them
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jacky true
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jacky good point
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jacky in the case, I guess it's about how to represent that to be a 'special' kind of reply
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jacky in the way that /reacji are different
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[KevinMarks] Is there an implied size constraint? Or are they animated?
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sknebel I guess then the representation is the first question. How are they shown differently
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jacky opens up /sticker again
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[KevinMarks] They're also a bit like /mood especially in the LJ version
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capjamesg[d] What is mood?
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Loqi mood is sometimes expressed explicitly in or about a post, by the post author https://indieweb.org/mood
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capjamesg[d] EmotionML?
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capjamesg[d] I have never heard of that.
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