#dev 2022-03-15
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Seirdy sknebel: yeah it's called Butterchurn: https://github.com/jberg/butterchurn
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[schmarty]1 <video> with a poster attribute can have audio <source>s, and even captions, but browser support has been inconsistent over time https://martymcgui.re/2017/10/17/native-html5-captions-and-titles-for-audio-content-with-webvtt/
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@flancian ↩️ [[neil]] told me about [[http://brid.gy]], I think it might help with this? I have it on my todo to try. (twitter.com/_/status/1503648823788417026)
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[KevinMarks] Apple supports jpeg 2000, no one else does. Which is a bit of a shame as it had some nice characteristics
# [KevinMarks] Like reducing detail by truncating the bitstream
# [KevinMarks] So you could use the same file for multiple resolutions, just read enough as you need, though that would mean changing the fetch/render split in browsers.
# [KevinMarks] So that "blurry placeholder" thing that Medium vs others were dying a while ago could happen automatically.
# [KevinMarks] But you'd need to couple your http2 reading with the image size decision code.
# [KevinMarks] Safari gets lazy loading, yay https://webkit.org/blog/12445/new-webkit-features-in-safari-15-4/
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jamietanna[m] Yes thanks was good to see your thoughts ☺ will see if there's anything to apply into this version. Is Parse This hosteable somewhere? Would be good to have the same hosted service idea for it so others can consume it
# jamietanna[m] Yeah I guess I'm thinking more a public way of sending an arbitrary url and getting the response in/from the various formats you support
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@schnarfed ↩️ Good question! https://brid.gy/ copies your posts, https://fed.brid.gy/ federates them. Sounds like you might be interested in https://fed.brid.gy/. (twitter.com/_/status/1503719524977111041)
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# e-snail are there any python-based indieweb projects that could use some love?
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Loqi Python is a programming language and web server runtime environment used for many IndieWeb projects https://indieweb.org/Python
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jacky https://indieweb.org/Python#Projects has mentions of a few :)
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capjamesg[d] indieweb-utils could use some love 🙂
# capjamesg[d] jacky linked a great page above too 🙂
# e-snail I saw the python page. Mainly wondering if anything in particular has a priority need for contributors
# e-snail I will check out indieweb-utils then :)
# [KevinMarks] reviving silopub could be a good project https://indieweb.org/silo.pub
# [KevinMarks] also woodwind maybe https://github.com/kylewm/woodwind
# e-snail I probably won't be focusing much on anything to do with silos myself. Woodwind looks cool
# [KevinMarks] reviving woodwind and making it work with microsub could be an interesting project too
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# [schmarty]1 https://pypi.org/project/Flask-IndieAuth/ could use some love 😅
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# e-snail jacky++ capjamesg[d]++ [KevinMarks]++ [schmarty]1++ thanks for the suggestions, everyone
# e-snail hmmmm, that doesn't work on one line, huh? or does it only print the first one?
# capjamesg[d] aaronpk There's a feature request for Loqi :)_
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# e-snail well then...
# e-snail capjamesg[d]++
# e-snail [KevinMarks]++
# e-snail [schmarty]1++
# [schmarty]1 schmarty++
# [schmarty]1 ehehe with my wrong IRC-name i can karma myself 😏
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# [snarfed] e-snail the most important python indieweb project is mf2py, it's definitely been looking for contributors recently! https://github.com/microformats/mf2py/issues
# e-snail [snarfed]++ that's a good one
# e-snail do any regular chat users have a static site gen setup?
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# [schmarty]1 e-snail: my site is primarily hugo-powered. i have a micropub endpoint based on https://github.com/skpy/micropub which writes files to a git repo. that git repo triggers a webhook on my "publisher". the publisher pulls the latest from git and does some updates to the hugo data, builds the site, syncs the changed output files, sends webmentions and websub notifications.
# e-snail [schmarty]1: this is the kind of setup I'm envisioning (right now all I have is that commits to content repo auto-rebuild the site)
# e-snail I'm gonna be stealing a lot of ideas from you I think :)
# e-snail something I'm not clear on about webmentions: how are multiple sends dealt with? For my case, if I lose or mess up the cache, seems like that'd result in re-sending all the webmentions over again
# e-snail ok, sweet
# [snarfed] webmentions are expected to be idempotent. https://webmention.net/draft/#updating-existing-webmentions
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@marcthiele Unsubscribed from all RSS Feeds that only deliver their headlines or headline and a very small excerpt. Really like the idea of reading the whole post in the feed actually and being forced to visit the website and leave my reader. (twitter.com/_/status/1503679968580182023)
# Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/marcthiele/status/1503679968580182023?s=20&t=1Io8-6dn6LwSGuTsnuglyw" to the "See Also" section of /RSS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80115&oldid=79687
# e-snail Murray[d]: how come you use multiple generators?
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[aciccarello] e-snail I use Eleventy for my site
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# e-snail makes sense
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# [aciccarello] e-snail looks like /static_site_generator has some indieweb examples listed
# e-snail [aciccarello]: thanks, I saw that; I'm hoping to find the intersection of those (and the other static* pages) and people who spend a lot of time in chat :)
# [aciccarello] Yeah, I just realized that I could add myself to that page today 😁
# jamietanna e-snail I use Hugo, and for a while I was webmentioning everyone from every page, on every site deploy. It got better, but I think it's still in a bit of a broken state, sending more webmentions than needed
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# [schmarty]1 for webmentions (and other things that should only happen on new/changed pages), i have been really happy with `rsync -i`
# [schmarty]1 it outputs a line for each new/updated/deleted file with a little summary of what changed
# [schmarty]1 so after the hugo build, my publisher does an rsync to the actual place the files are served from and rsync provides that nice list of what actually changed. the publisher then uses that list to only send webmentions, websub updates, etc. for new or updated pages.
# [schmarty]1 (it would totally send out webmentions for every page if i made a template update that affects each page, though. i have a threshold check that skips webmentions if the changed files list is thousands long)
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# Loqi Webmention is a web standard for mentions and conversations across the web, a powerful building block that is used for a growing federated network of comments, likes, reposts, and other rich interactions across the decentralized social web https://indieweb.org/webmentions
# [KevinMarks] presumably you also exclude the index and tag pages?
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# e-snail I like the idea of a service that consumes the feed from the site directly for determining webmentions
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# jacky I think https://webmention.app/ does that!
# jacky the inspo I was looking for seems to exist with https://indieweb.org/Telegraph
# jacky and with https://indieweb.org/stapibas
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# jacky if you want to test your /reply-context, def try liking content on [tantek]'s site :)
# jacky I had to add a special case to catch the use of `p-name e-content` here https://jacky.wtf/2022/3/5f/5foU8zanELK-fKzZXL6jnstc
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