#dev 2022-04-11

2022-04-11 UTC
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[arush] Can you send a link to a live example? I'm using Jaws and would be happy to test solutions. And yeah, VoiceOver is the Internet Explorer of screen readers, at least on the Mack.
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Seirdy [arush]: https://seirdy.one/2020/11/23/website-best-practices.html. Long-ass article; skip to the "Changing text direction" section (heading-3, the second subsection of the "Machine Translation" section). That has the "Ahmed Shadeed" example.
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Seirdy I'll be updating it later today to include the "apostrophe + s" inside the link, so i could save a copy of the page as-is right now, one sec
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Loqi [Rohan Kumar] An opinionated list of best practices for textual websites
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Seirdy ok here's a snapshot of the page as-is, which should last after I update the page: https://0x0.st/ob7b.html
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Seirdy yeah voiceover is even worse than orca for articles, but seems better than orca for apps IME.
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@FalconSensei Anyone knows an alternative to http://webmention.app for sending webmentions? This one doesn't seem to work properly most of the time, and it's not updated since 2020 :/ #ssg #webmention #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1513327334895497218)
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aaronpk come on! 2020 was like last week!
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@hagengraf Neu im Blog: Ein kostenloses Social Media Feedback Tool mit #Bridgy, #Webmention und #WordPress https://blog.novatrend.ch/2022/04/11/ein-kostenloses-social-media-feedback-tool-mit-bridgy-webmention-und-wordpress/ (twitter.com/_/status/1513404003715067909)
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@FalconSensei ↩️ I remember once seeing an @eleven_ty template that sent webmentions. I guess I need to dig through my twitter repli… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1513385613138964480 (twitter.com/_/status/1513385613138964480)
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@novatrend_ch Neu im Blog: Ein kostenloses Social Media Feedback Tool mit #Bridgy, #Webmention und #WordPress https://blog.novatrend.ch/?p=7278 ^hg #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1513411604486012930)
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[arush] ↩️ OK I tested with Jaws latest and NVDA latest, as well as two versions back for both, and this appears to be a feature not a bug because essentially you're effecting the DOM. Probably best to use the accesslab solution, but this will prevent I18N since Aria is weird like that depending on what you're using.
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jacky no reply to a PR === unmaintained + broken
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jacky that said, this feels like another case "using webmentions as a protocol vs a protocol"
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jacky anyone has thoughts on https://github.com/indieweb/micropub-extensions/issues/46 about having a specific Micropub channel for books?
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[tantek]1 channelplace book?
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[tantek]1 😉
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[aciccarello] oh, I hadn't seen the channels extension proposal
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jacky yeah it's a good one! I think especially with [manton]'s Epilogue, we could see a proliferation of content-specific clients
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doosboox capjamesg: your webring looks broken :( https://static-site-webring.jamesg.blog/previous
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doosboox capjamesg: https://lounge.warmedal.se/uploads/47c9dece4e8c1556/C38763D0-5CB6-4DF5-8BD8-746CFFD5508A.png <— that’s what I got when I clicked ”previous” on my blog
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> doosboox Thanks for flagging. I need to fix this.
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> doosboox++
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Loqi doosboox has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (17 in all channels)
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@fluffy ↩️ If you're CLI- and Python-savvy, check out Pushl, https://github.com/PlaidWeb/Pushl, which I wrote to automate sending webmentions from RSS/Atom/h-feed feeds, and it does a few other useful things too. (twitter.com/_/status/1513571321803726852)
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jamietanna capjamesg I'd also recommend running it out of development mode!
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@fluffy ↩️ Yeah it'd probably be possible to build a webhook-based thing around it, but that hasn't been a priority for me. It probably wouldn't be hard to make something that functions like http://webmention.app as a Heroku service though. (twitter.com/_/status/1513603810085650435)
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sknebel did someone get what exactly the problem they are having with webmention.app even is?
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[tantek]1 aaronpk, are you following the "self-issued OIDC" stuff at all? https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.html
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aaronpk vaguely but i really need to pay more attention to it
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aaronpk it's a huge part of the current openid meetings right now
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[tantek]1 feels like something similar should be possible with IndieAuth
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[tantek]1 something that you can use that "works" even if you personal site if temporarily offline
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[tantek]1 even if your* personal site
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[tantek]1 site is* temporarily offline
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aaronpk wow there's a lot of openid meetings, there's 8 this week alone
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[tantek]1 that's a bit extreme
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aaronpk all for different sub-groups
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@FalconSensei ↩️ The only thing I need is: call a webhook from IFTTT, passing a blog post url. Then the thing finds the links and sends the webmentions. I could probably check whatever is being done on webmentionapp, and add that on my codebase as a cloudflare function (twitter.com/_/status/1513639482536325126)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ That's the tricky part. One answer people use is checking the feed, or using WebSub to trigger if you have that set up. My http://mention.tech has a webmention sending POST endpoint if you want to try that. (twitter.com/_/status/1513648956064030721)
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[snarfed] jacky, I'm curious about "backfeed of comments made on https://wordpress.com blogs and ones that support commenting using one's Wordpress account," from https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=80734&oldid=80727&rcid=80630
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[snarfed] do you mean, you post on your site, POSSE to wp.com, people comment on wp.com, and you want those comments backfeed to your site?
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[snarfed] er backfed?