#dev 2022-07-05
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@unwoundstack unwoundstack can now send & receive Webmentions: https://www.unwoundstack.com/blog/webmentions-ann.html (twitter.com/_/status/1544112708181794821)
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@paulrobertlloyd Nothing melts my brain quite like the IndieAuth token grant and verification process, but after the fiftieth refact… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1544103295500701696 (twitter.com/_/status/1544103295500701696)
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[snarfed] capjamesg nice! just fyi it's 500ing on maybe uncrawled domains? eg https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog/logs?domain=snarfed.org
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# IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> snarfed That is indeed the reason. I'll try and do a full recrawl soon.
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@mikevdev I've added #webmention support to my site. If you like this tweet (after an hour) your like will show up on the article.
managed to shorten the article by releasing a npm module to do much of the heavy lifting. link included.
#indieweb #webdev #nodejs
https://mikevdv.dev/blog/2022-07-05-web-mentions (twitter.com/_/status/1544254965799075840)
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@petermolnar ↩️ In 2022, I wouldn't touch microdata. Microformats (v1) are still parsed by many things, v2 is actively used for #webmentions , but if you insist on http://schema.org then consider RDFa instead.
Related read: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/17/8/owning-my-reviews (twitter.com/_/status/1544310657532698624)
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AramZ-S[m] Question: is there a spec for describing sets of archives and links other than Memento? There's a lot of good stuff in Memento but it doesn't really seem to have an interest in being like 'here's an unrelated set of every link in my archive'.
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Memento" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Memento is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] AramZ-S[m], oh yeah I remember looking at Memento like 9 years ago. It's aspirational handwavy stuff, pretty close to totally useless. Nothing actually "good" in there as in any kind of workable or implemented standard (interoperably by publishers and consuming code to do something useful)
# AramZ-S[m] Yeah, Memento is heavily biased towards the way archive dot org works and is structured but outside of their starts making less and less sense. I think the timegate/timemap stuff makes some sense in theory but it's hard to penetrate their spec and understand exactly wtf is going on and even when I do (working in public on it here: https://fightwithtools.dev/tag/memento/?cb=123 ) , the specifics of the complexity of rels seems like a
# AramZ-S[m] hope that the web would be working differently now.
# AramZ-S[m] Also creating WARC files can get really complex
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# AramZ-S[m] This is one of the things I'm hoping to get out of my research on indie search engines. I really want to figure out a way that related indie search engines can share their crawl resutls. I have a format I've made up for archived content on my own that builds off of the Memento stuff, but also is structured for a whole bunch of other outcomes that are only for my site (and def overengineered) but it would be cool if my sites' archives
# AramZ-S[m] could be shared and used collectively with other archives instead of forcing everyone to crawl and store stuff themselves in each individual site.
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[KevinMarks] Have you looked at the Common Crawl stuff?
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# AramZ-S[m] I have not even heard of it, but looking at it now and wow how have I never heard of this before.
# AramZ-S[m] This one looks like it is built on top of the Internet Archive's crawls but def still really interesting and I'm also surprised I've never seen this before.
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# AramZ-S[m] This is great stuff, thanks! I added a corpuses section to my indie search research source page https://context.center/topics/indie-search/
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# [snarfed] AramZ-S [KevinMarks] fwiw Common Crawl can be useful for sampling but it's not nearly as usable for anything comprehensive on individual sites. I tried to use it for Indie Map but had to give up: https://indiemap.org/docs.html#common-crawl
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jacky might be useful for anyone making demos of requests https://github.com/Kong/httpsnippet
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# AramZ-S[m] [snarfed] Ooo I'll read up, this looks very intersting as well. Def might take you up on the note compare once I read in and get a little further into my overall research.
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# @mikevdev I've now finished backdating any twitter likes as far as I care to. Also fixed a small bug that stopped unlikes registering.
#webmentions #twitter #webdev #js #gcp #cloudfunctions #npm (twitter.com/_/status/1544404637985525760)
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# IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> I can't seem to get the Web::Microformats2 Perl package to work.
# IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> "make_test NO one dependency not OK (DateTime::Format::ISO8601); additionally test harness failed"
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