#dev 2022-09-25
2022-09-25 UTC
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@Foone if your website automatically blocks HTTP requests from suspiciously "bot" user-agents, like python/urllib? you are a fool and you are going to get scraped just as hard, but now you've pissed off the archivist. (twitter.com/_/status/1573141826793775104)
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[tantek]4 In #indieweb I asked what people liked to use to write/edit blog posts offline on an iPad, noting that I use the built-in native Notes app
# [tantek]4 since aaronpk also said Notes, I'm thinking that sounds like a decent IndieWeb creator challenge of sorts
# [tantek]4 theoretically, with a Service Worker, it should be possible to create a Notes-app like UI with a website where you could 100% edit/save offline and when you happened to reconnect to a network, "sync" with your own server
# [tantek]4 that alone would be so useful that it must already exist, like with as clean a UX as Notes app (CSS to imitate that really shouldn't be that difficult). and I mean "simple" text notes, not all the fancy objects and crap they've added the past few years
# [tantek]4 ah yes, management/browsing of multiple "notes" is definitely a whole feature thing
# [tantek]4 agreed, having "Publish" be a distinct separate action which then "froze" the note and queued for publishing would be great. of course with the whole life cycle of letting you auto-unfreeze the note to keep editing it (obviously pulled off the publishing queue as well)
# [tantek]4 and then when you happen to connect to the network again, it could auto-micropub publish the queued notes
# [tantek]4 enhancement to set a publishing "time window" say if you only wanted the notes auto-published during your personal daylight hours. and enhance that with Buffer-like specific publication time queuing
# [tantek]4 what is a scheduled post
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "scheduled post" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "scheduled post is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek]4 wat
# [tantek]4 scheduled post is /scheduling
# Loqi [[tantek]4] huh after some quick searching I found this (haven't watched it yet but it sounds good from the description) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01YKQmia2Jw
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[schmarty] Reminds me of https://unhosted.org/apps/
# [schmarty] I used to use Laverna as an Evernote replacement. It supports syncing to a Dropbox. I used it with a self-hosted RemoteStorage backend
# [schmarty] Litewrite is one I meant to check out but after I started doing my notes as a static site I kind of stopped playing with Laverna and RemoteStorage-based apps
# [schmarty] I still occasionally think RemoteStorage with IndieAuth in front would make a great add on for Micropub clients to share access to e.g. nicknames caches without continuing to make one-off extensions to the Micropub spec
# [schmarty] RS feels to me a little like SOLID pods, but without all the semantic web cruft.
# [schmarty] Oop should have pinged tantek 🙃 ^^
# [schmarty] Another thing that gives me pause about web apps with browser-first storage is Safari's aggressive eviction of data and browsers generally having poorly documented limits on what can be stored and for how long etc.
# [schmarty] anyhoo clearly I am due for another sweep of what's new in unhosted apps and https://0data.app
# [tantek]4 [schmarty] "aggressive eviction of data and browsers generally having poorly documented limits on what can be stored and for how long" is a very valid concern
# [snarfed]1 [tantek] yes! like https://snarfed.org/posting-to-the-indieweb-from-your-phone
# [snarfed]1 (re your offline-first web-based authoring UI)
# [schmarty] snarfed++ 7 years on this is still a great list of features. Also ServiceWorker support has vastly improved, heh.
# [tantek]4 snarfed++ great brainstorming and from 2015! As [schmarty] notes, Service Worker support has gotten significantly better and more consistent cross-browser. Key piece for the "write offline on an iPad" use-case, iOS has supported it since ~2018
# Loqi remoteStorage is a javascript library and data storage spec that enables static webapps to work offline and store data on arbitrary data hosts https://indieweb.org/remoteStorage
# [tantek]4 I wonder if there could be a higher level abstraction than that. E.g. the offline "notes" that I'm talking about, when stored on a server could either be public or private wiki pages. Static HTML as their storage.
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[Jamie_Tanna] Snarfed I'd be up for trying Micropub for Bridgy too if you're up for another tester!
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# [snarfed]1 [Jamie_Tanna] sure! there's a "Get token" button on your Bridgy user page now. feel free to try! endpoint is https://brid.gy/micropub, supports create and delete and photo/video URLs but not update or file upload.
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# [tantek]4 ok I'm quite impressed with how minimal the code is for that offline JS notes app thing using Local Storage: https://github.com/dcode-youtube/notes-app-javascript-localstorage/tree/main
# [tantek]4 no framework(s) needed
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# [tantek]4 noframework++
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# [Jamie_Tanna] Thanks snarfed! Will give it a go soon. Wondering if I should have a separate twitter account for testing, anyway 🤔
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