#dev 2022-10-14

2022-10-14 UTC
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@dannypsnl https://dannypsnl.me/blog/2022-09-17-picopass/ 好了，這下應該會有 webmentions 自動連結惹？ (twitter.com/_/status/1580836776876261376)
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sknebel happy "World Standards Day" everyone!
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capjamesg standards++
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@dannypsnl Webmentions 好用無誤 (twitter.com/_/status/1580871781728284673)
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capjamesg TIL about https://docs.github.com/en/rest/markdown
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mnlwldr Maybe someone is interested in things like this? https://defer.cc/twitter-export/
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Loqi I published a Go application today to export the last tweets from your twitter timeline to your local hugo repository.You can find it here twitter2hugo-export
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[snarfed] capjamesg yeah that's useful, Bridgy Publish uses it for GitHub preview
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capjamesg What is World Standards Day?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "World Standards Day" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "World Standards Day is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg We should celebrate somehow!
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[tantek] You know for something sounding as grand as World Standards Day, I'm going to be asking for a citation
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[tantek] And of course a detailed spec documenting at what time in which timezone does it start and end?
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[tantek] Is it based on the ordinal day of the year or Gregorian month/day?
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capjamesg :D
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@stevenjmesser sorry to everyone who received weird webmentions from me, fixed now https://github.com/stevenjmesser/visitmy.website/commit/f7a7fb63cfe0832722323d9d50124bcb4f8d325c (twitter.com/_/status/1580977448900255744)
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[schmarty] hehe, .rss in twitter names ... as a pushback against .eth in twitter names?
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[schmarty] [manton] ok, i am now actively trying to test micro.blog's mastodon integration. got a test post here that is in-reply-to a mastodon post: https://martymcgui.re/2022/10/14/140354/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] Congrats! By the way those are not just 80’s action movies they are specifically Arnold Schwarzenegger films!!
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[schmarty] before posting it i set my "Mastodon-compatible username" to `@schmarty@micro.blog`
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[schmarty] oh nerts m.b is using my json feed which i now see doesn't have the in-reply-to anywhere ...
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[schmarty] [manton] does micro.blog support a JSONFeed extension for indicating replies? or one for RSS/Atom? this seems to be a blocker for having a non-hosted account use micro.blog's activitypub integration.
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[manton] [schmarty] Ah, that’s interesting… No, there’s currently no way to get replies into Micro.blog except via Webmention.
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[snarfed] the main one in Atom is thr:in-reply-to, http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0
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[snarfed] (that's what OStatus used)
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[manton] There probably should be a way with a feed. The work-around I guess is to exclude replies from your feed, but ping Micro.blog with a Webmention when you reply somewhere so it can add it.
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[snarfed] [schmarty] example: https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=atom&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmartymcgui.re%2F2022%2F10%2F14%2F140354%2F
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[schmarty] snarfed++ thanks! but micro.blog is probably not going to look for the thr:in-reply-to- property in the Atom feed right now, right?
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[schmarty] manton++ thanks for the hint! so this post is on my site in-reply-to a post on a mastodon instance. is there a webmention invocation for micro.blog that would cause it to try and push that out via activitypub? 🤔
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[manton] [schmarty] This is a bit of uncharted waters… But in theory, if you have a reply on your site that is marked up with HTML + MF2, you can send a Webmention to Micro.blog with that URL. Micro.blog will grab your post, add it to its local database/timeline as a reply, and then send it out to your Mastodon followers.
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[manton] Basically the Webmention is equivalent to hitting the “Reply” link inside of Micro.blog.
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[manton] There are probably some areas where this breaks down, such as replying to a post that is on Mastodon that Micro.blog doesn’t know about… It will “work” but won’t thread the reply correctly, I expect.
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[manton] So in other words, I kind of doubt your example above will actually work 100% correctly. I think that’s fixable, though.
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[manton] (No one has ever done this before on Micro.blog!)
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[manton] Reviewing the code… Yeah, replying to a Mastodon post that Micro.blog has never seen won’t work very well right now. When the Webmention comes in, I should probably pull the entire thread from Mastodon so that Micro.blog knows about who is replying to what.
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[schmarty] ah, ok. i won't poke the jenga tower, today! thanks so much for looking, manton++
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[manton] Thanks for trying it out! I’ll try to fill these holes.
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sknebel hm, what fits [schmarty]s metaphor. "glue down the bricks"? :P
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[manton] Haha. Yeah, that’s better for Jenga.
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@lcptuk Webmention W3C protocol for notifying a URL when a website links to it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1581019285345865728)
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[tantek] snarfed, IIRC link rel=in-reply-to was also suggested for Atom, without needing another namespace
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[snarfed] sure! I just went with thr: for compatibility because OStatus used it. maybe Mastodon too, not sure
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[tantek] I don't know of any test suite for rfc4685 nor any currently active consuming code implementations. IMO that means it's worth reconsidering (since it clearly didn't get enough critical mass of community to produce those things)
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