#dev 2022-11-24

2022-11-24 UTC
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gRegor That bookmarklet is geared towards browsing a Mastodon profile, though could work if an indieweb site added meta: `<meta content="gregorlove.com@gregorlove.com" property="profile:username">`
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gRegor Which I don't love, but it's an option
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gRegor Could be neat if Mastodon implemented something like /rel-subscribe
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gRegor They already have that `template` url for subscribing, just putting it in the HTML instead of hidden in webfinger JSON
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gRegor (or in addition to, I'm sure it depends on that JSON :)
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@eniehack 課題をやらないといけないのはそうなんだけど、普通にElixirでWebmentionやWebSubの諸々が書きたいのよね (twitter.com/_/status/1595612535700750336)
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[tantek] that site has hundreds of blogs, and Bridgy Fed is already federating hundreds of users (which is more than I expected!)
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[tantek] snarfed, new feature request for Bridgy Fed, a UI like https://ooh.directory/ 😂
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[snarfed] you mean like https://brid.gy/users ?
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[tantek] hah yes except listed by personal site rather than silo accounts
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[snarfed] right. sure! filed an issue
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@malcolmblaney ↩️ Hi John I don't have one yet, just subscribing to feeds that Mastodon generates. That does mean I can't reply so will probably set up https://fed.brid.gy for my website. (twitter.com/_/status/1595688354645176321)
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[Murray] -> #indieweb-meta @ gRegor RE: your discussion on `<article>` there are a couple of solid posts on SmashingMag that do a good job of explaining the benefits/semantics: https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2020/01/html5-article-section/ and https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/07/article-section-elements-accessibility/, just in case they're useful 🙂
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[Murray] to your point about the header/footer use in article, it isn't a requirement, but it can help with some assistive technologies, and I also believe has been (is?) used by some in-browser reader modes (and therefore, I'd assume, voice assistants) to slightly change the presented layout
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[Murray] also [tantek] just FYI but the weba11y site seems to have moved/closed down, but the linked source on your to-do list wasn't working for me any more
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[tantek] Hmm it was a good ref. Probably worth looking up its IA link
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@zsoltsandor @tumblr has adding #ActivityPub in the dev pipeline, rumors of @Flickr doing the same too. Some are urging @Vimeo and @SoundCloud to do as well. ActivityPub powers the interconnected social web. (Add support for Microformats and Webmention too, plz.) (twitter.com/_/status/1595761621502234624)
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pmlnr "rumors of @Flickr doing the same too" yay, let's overcomplicate the web, again
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pmlnr I'm having some serious web2 vibes with the buzz around ActivityPub
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@ABarroso ↩️ A ideia do webfinger é muito inteligente, apetece-me seguir um pequeno artigo de como publicar algo fora do meio, por exemplo do Mastodon. Ainda não li o WebMentions. Vou ter um fim de semana cheio. (twitter.com/_/status/1595797533523341312)
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[KevinMarks] One reason mastodon queues are O(n^2) https://better.boston/@crschmidt/109399481899290401
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Loqi [Christopher Schmidt] @evan @msokolov @gregprice So, an ActivityPub implementation which receives a Note which has an activitystream:replies object should have all the information it needs to fetch replies; Mastodon's implementation in particular chooses not to include re...
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barnaby interesting to compare with webmention+mf2 where, if replies are marked up with h-cite, you have to fetch the post page and can get lossy copies of the replies there, but need to fetch and parse each of the reply URLs individually if you want the original content
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[KevinMarks] There's also the webmention.io cache potentially. If I put a bit more effort into mention.tech that could work too.
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barnaby it’d be interesting to look at usage for some mastodon instances and try to come up with some back-of-the-envelope calculations of how many fetches would be required for the same functionality using indieweb protocols. I suspect it’d require more, and that there could be some possible optimisations
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[snarfed] efficiency SWAT0
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[KevinMarks] This is the salmention idea too, though that could be even noisier
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aaronpk https://better.boston/@crschmidt/109396923033098688
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Loqi [Christopher Schmidt] @gregprice Yeah. ActivityPub Replies are sent upstream to the original poster, who then has a responsibility to federate them back out, but they only federate at that time; it's a little more complicated (e.g. if the replier is on your instance or fo...
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[KevinMarks] https://mastodon.social/@SusanPotter/109399537002315358
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Loqi [Susan Potter 😱😱😱] Proxied my domain's /.well-known/webfigner to a Deno Deploy lambda just now The bulk of it took less than 10 minutes (writing the dumb-by-design JS lambda[1], setting up a Deno Deploy project, linking it to my private GitHub repo, testing the results...
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aaronpk the problem with that is you end up following the thing it redirects to, so that's not a permanent solution
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aaronpk it's more like a very complicated HTTP redirect
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aaronpk actually no it's worse than that because at least with an HTTP redirect you could plug the personal domain into a reader and keep your subscription to that
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[snarfed] silver lining to ActivityPub HTTP sigs, Mastodon's error message for them have at least improved over time. eg I got "Mastodon requires the Digest header or (request-target) pseudo-header to be signed" just now
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[KevinMarks] also HTTP has the 302 semantic to say 'don't cache the thing I'm redirecting to'
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aaronpk does this mean micro.blog could be used as an indieauth provider even if your blog isn't hosted at micro.blog? like could you use it as a replacement for indieauth.com for example? https://www.manton.org/2018/07/04/indieauth-for-external.html
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Loqi [Manton Reece] IndieAuth for external blogs
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[KevinMarks] I can try that and see if it works for aperture / monocle
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Ready Player One? https://www.linkedin.com/posts/beth-ward-712407188_digital-digitalmarketing-marketing-activity-7000783174054125569-Adt0?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
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