#dev 2023-01-01

2023-01-01 UTC
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@mojitane
↩️ Could you explain a bit about webmentions and your experience with it maybe? I remember blog pings from back in the day but not in detail and the indieweb explanation isn't helping me much
(twitter.com/_/status/1609375439595749377)
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[0x3b0b]
Today feels *sort of* productive...I tweaked my website so that my articles page functions as an h-feed with actual h-entries instead of having a feed but being empty, submitted in issue pointing out what I did (might end up sending a patch), added the webmention.io pingback relay, demonstrated that I can post an IndieWeb "like" of something that isn't an ActivityPub object (which results in posting an ActivityPub status with a link to
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[0x3b0b]
Holiday Hack Challenge.
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[0x3b0b]
the thing), actually bothered to find out that my unlisted posts don't appear in my RSS/Atom/JSON feeds, realized that means some of what I write is easier to discover by looking up my Fediverse profile on a *different* instance than by looking at my website, apparently accidentally got the reverse proxy trick I was trying to do before working...granted, I also completely forgot I had meant to spend most of the afternoon working on the
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starrwulfe[m]
0x3b0b: sounds like you were about to head down a rabbit hole, saw me already in said hole and noped outta there.
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starrwulfe[m]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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starrwulfe[m]
Today I finally got else’s indieweb flavored fork of GoBlog running on my VPS and played with it for about 4 hours. I could get webmentions going but couldn’t get the micropub or indieauth endpoints up so no connecting to other front ends or the wiki site. Also the ActivityPub section never did work for some reason as well…
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starrwulfe[m]
I’m leaning towards Wordpress/indieweb/ActivityPub plugins now. That should make GWG happy! 😃
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GWG
Always happy to talk WordPress
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GWG
Although we have a room for it.
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GWG
I'm in a midst of a long explanation of why I haven't embraced blocks
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@argyleink
↩️ http://WebMention.io makes it pretty easy, they aggregate references to your domain and you can ping their API for what and when.
(twitter.com/_/status/1609404752626069505)
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starrwulfe[m]
Can blocks have microformats?
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GWG
starrwulfe[m]: Yes, in theory. They are rendered as HTML.
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starrwulfe[m]
Back in the day I was an amateur Wordpress guru. Was avoiding it because I wanted to learn something new. But for my first outing into Indieweb land, perhaps it’s better to stick to the familiar.
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GWG
I do everything blockless.
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starrwulfe[m]
I ran blockless too but mostly because I had a hand coded theme I ran since 2.3 and didn’t want to figure it out. These days there’s so many good options… can have different layouts for different sections and everything
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GWG
Well, if you want to explore, we have the wordpress room set up
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[tantek]
#indieweb-wordpress that is
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starrwulfe[m]
GWG: thanks, I’ll head in and ask for some tips tomorrow if anyone is gonna be on
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GWG
starrwulfe[m]: I am not always on, but I'm always connected
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[0x3b0b]
[tantek]: I have looked at newbase60 repeatedly over the years, and in fact got about 40% of the way through implementing the numbering scheme I described wrapped in Kevin Marks's newbase60 implementation, between what I posted in -chat and my post in here just before the top of the hour...but it would have been a step into a rabbit hole I didn't want to spend more time on tonight that would also only solve some of the pain points I'd
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[0x3b0b]
like it to, so I backed out of it for now.
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[tantek]
sure, but if the goal is minimum length of permalink for date/time, then newbase60 helps achieve that, especially with minutes/hours/days!
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[tantek]
and if you’re not worried about length, then I'd advise using the full year, not two digits
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[tantek]
you don't want to have to worry about Y2.1k 🙂
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[0x3b0b]
If I really want it short and constant-length, I could just use numtosxg(int(time.time()/60)) since unless I've forgotten how to do math, that will be five characters for well beyond my life expectancy. Sticking to minute resolution having more to do with theoretically being able to determine a permalink in advance than with saving a character...but the ability to edit is planned eventually which removes a hefty chunk of why I
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[0x3b0b]
would care about that.
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[0x3b0b]
Kinda funny thing about that approach is it would make the note-like address for my articles an inherent permashortlink. Which it already is for any article with a slug longer than 17 characters.
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IWDiscordRelay
<c​apjamesg#4492> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34205289 😂
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Loqi
[preview] [codetrotter] If you want to break protocol, I suggest that we also change all of the HTTP verbs for no reason whatsoever :^) GET -&gt; FETCH HEAD -&gt; EXAMINE POST -&gt; SUBMIT PUT -&gt; REPLACE DELETE -&gt; REMOVE CONNECT -&gt; PROXY OPTIONS -&gt; ALTERNATIVES ...
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[0x3b0b]
YOINK, DEETS, YEET, KOBE...
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[KevinMarks]
What is cthulu?
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Loqi
CTHULU is Create, Tombstone, Hide, Unhide, List, Update https://indieweb.org/CTHULU
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[0x3b0b]
Uh, let me see here, it's been a while and that's not really my thing; I might get this wrong. Ia fhtang de bork bork bork.
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[0x3b0b]
that domain name took me a second because I just happened to have been looking up guns used in a machine game earlier...
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[0x3b0b]
I mean video game