#dev 2023-01-14

2023-01-14 UTC
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GWG If I decide that the audio I'm linking to in a post is actually an alternate version of a post, how would I mark that up?
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[tantek] publish an example first, and worry about how to mark it up *after* we've gathered a bunch of real world content publishing examples
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[tantek] so in short, no special markup to begin with
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aaronpk no point in marking it up if nothing is going to read it
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GWG I thought I'd try a proof of concept on an audio alternate as an idea, after the [schmarty] conversation of earlier.
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GWG I need the perfect note to record
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GWG You know...the most profound thought to kick off the series
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[tantek] GWG, premature markup will likely lead your astray
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[tantek] lead you* astray
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GWG I know, just wondering if there was something already
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gRegor [snarfed], Tried to federate a multi-photo and the logs seem OK but I'm not seeing the post in Mastodon. https://fed.brid.gy/log?start_time=1673660173&key=https://gregorlove.com/2023/01/there-was-some-strong/%20https://xoxo.zone/inbox&module=
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[tantek] ooh does Masto support multiphotos?
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gRegor that's becoming a key question :) I thought it did
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gRegor Was thinking maybe the photo posts are async and take mastodon a bit longer, but doesn't seem likely
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gRegor (since it's ~30 minutes after federating)
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gRegor Should support up to 4, like twitter https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/posting/##Up+to+4+images+can+be+attached
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[tantek] why copy Twitter's posting limitations? why not 10 like Insta?
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[tantek] or perhaps Pixelfed does that 😛
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[KevinMarks] Here's one with 4 https://xoxo.zone/@KevinMarks/109620889386738037
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Loqi [preview] [Kevin Marks] @Mirandakeeling Durham always feels like it's inviting you to join a quest to the underworld https://xoxo-media.sfo2.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/media_attachments/files/109/620/876/380/420/787/original/e8ba1c477667f1d6.jpeg
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[KevinMarks] Looks like loqi and slack only show the first one though
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gRegor Nice
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[snarfed] gRegor true! I don't see it on https://indieweb.social/@gregorlove.com@gregorlove.com (logged in) either, but that log shows that it federated there ok 🤷‍♂️
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Loqi [preview] Farewell, Fail Whale
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[snarfed] BF does federate multi-photos ok, so I don't think that alone is the problem
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gRegor hm, ok! I checked the filesize and they should all be within it
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gRegor Hm, need to update some mf2 if that's showing as the preview
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gRegor Xray is probably looking for the first h-entry, no the h-feed.p-name
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capjamesg [tantek] Re: https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2023-01-13/1673615044214600. Yes, just let me know what updates you push.
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Loqi [preview] [Loqi] capjamesg: [tantek] left you a message 19 hours, 57 minutes ago: do you have the link for when this was discussed in chat? https://github.com/tantek/cassis/issues/36 Also I have made some improvements (not committed) like recognizing Masto-post-like ...
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capjamesg I can't remember when we discussed this, but I remember doing so.
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[TMichelleMoore] Good Morning! After way to much time this morning, I finally got a u-in-reply-to to work in WordPress via Bridgy. I hope to be able to attend the webinar tomorrow and will read the references in [tantek] ‘s anniversary post.
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capjamesg Congratulations [TMichelleMoore]!
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capjamesg And good morning!
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[TMichelleMoore] Thank you [capjamesg] ! 😊
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sknebel good morning all
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capjamesg Morning sknebel! How goes things?
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sknebel -> chat
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@c0judeces little corner of the internet – http://arrieta.io / probando webmention https://arrieta.io/little-corner-of-the-internet/ (twitter.com/_/status/1614265922226892800)
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sknebel [tantek] btw I did get edit notifications on mastodon for your webmentions post, so some of it is working with bridgy
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[KevinMarks] What is yaml?
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Loqi YAML (YAML Ain't Markup Language) is a data serialization standard https://indieweb.org/YAML
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[KevinMarks] YAML << known pathologies https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2023/01/11/the-yaml-document-from-hell
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Loqi ok, I added "known pathologies https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2023/01/11/the-yaml-document-from-hell" to the "See Also" section of /YAML https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=86003&oldid=77684
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capjamesg "The json spec is not versioned. There were two changes to it in 2005 (the removal of comments, and the addition of scientific notation for numbers)," Comments aren't allowed in JSON?
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[KevinMarks] No, though most parsers will ignore them rather than throwing an error. The reason was that people were using them as parsing directives and making things incompatible. YAML has the opposite philosophy, which is like pickle but for crashing multiple runtimes.
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[KevinMarks] I'm not sure if there's a list, but YAML has broken lots of systems by code injection, including Ruby gems
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[KevinMarks] JSON vs YAML is the rule of least power
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> There's JSONC and JSON5 IIRC that do support comments (I opt for those parsers tbh)
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Zegnat JSON5?! That spec is not yet part of my growing JSON spec collection :o https://indieweb.org/JSON
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Zegnat jsonc is still my favourite. You never know if it is jsonc, jsonc, JSONC, or json-c people talk about without follow up questions (e.g. I am going to assume jacky meant Microsofts JSON with Comments as seen in VSCode and not any of the others.)
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[TMichelleMoore] [snarfed] does the following look right to follow someone. I am getting 502 errors. Do I need to check the publish t bridgrfed option?
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[TMichelleMoore] <div class="h-entry">
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[TMichelleMoore] I'm now following <a class="u-follow-of" href="https://mstdn.socia/@MeidasTouch">@meidastouch</a>!
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[TMichelleMoore] <a class="u-bridgy-fed" href="https://fed./.gy/"></a></div>
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capjamesg [snarfed] This message in the brid.gy logs makes me laugh: "skipping feed since it's not HTML or otherwise bad"
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capjamesg [snarfed] How does brid.gy GitHub work?
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capjamesg Do I need to add a syndication link to brid.gy for a post to get picked up?
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gRegor capjamesg, https://brid.gy/about#github-issue-comment
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[snarfed] Or https://brid.gy/about#GitHub+responses+require
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capjamesg Why thank you!
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